Lots of companies are making that choice.
My reply was to the restaurant story, not someone on the boat. They are always friend of a friend or something like that. I’m never surprised when it’s someone that sails, because I’ve met a lot of interesting characters myself. But as someone posted earlier, why does it always involve bathrooms and children?
Isn’t the answer obvious though? In short…It’s low hanging fruit and well, still pretty fresh in people’s memories. in fact it reeeealy never went away. Most have moved on from the Target stores bathroom fissco.
But just type into Google News “latest transgender bathroom debate” and you’ll see National News hits as early as 3 days ago.
The longer answer;
People as a whole mostly prescribe to a live and let live philosophy, we really don’t want any part of anyone else’s business and/or to intrude on their freedoms and personal lives, most of us have little desire to wade into cultural wars and political mire.
However, there comes a time in one’s life where you have to draw a hard line because apparently the more liberties that are given, the more encroaching that is done in the name of inclusiveness until we are stepping right over said theoretical line, the answer is then to push back as hard as possible when it is crossed.
Most sensible people don’t want adults projecting their fetishes on children (particularly their own) grooming them and trying to normalize abnormal behaviors or mental conditions is also generally frowned upon by the more reasonably minded collective,
Wether you believe it or you don’t, many believe these are huge problems.
There’s no shortage of issues to debate either. Let’s not forget Men competing in Female sports, the drag show debates and most recently, the men getting sponsorships for pretending to be Women caugh Mulvaney caugh from Anheuser Busch, Mayballine, Nike and most laughably, Tampax just to name a few off the top of the old noggin.
Every Woman I know who is brave enough to speak up is up in arms and seem to feel that they’re becoming less and less relevant in todays society and are systemically being sidelined. I honestly can’t say that I blame them.
I think biological females will lead the way in the continued push back, as they are the ones being made less relevant. And to think that message won’t be utilized as a political cudgel come voting time would be a big mistake, as tapping into political outrage and social injustices is in every political playbook ever written especially if it’s from a voting block that usually is the historical deciding factor in every presidential election.
IMO, sure…societal degradation is an issue, but we also have bigger Geopolitical and Economic woes that we should be more concerned with addressing, then again I don’t identify as a Female (I am a non binary Android) and therefore my opinion is moot on this subject matter.
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This is the most sensical thing you said, but you are way off on the issue and topic that they will be voting on. If Biological females feel sidelined, it’s by the same people trying to keep alive their control structures, but for them it will most certainly be the assault on their reproductive rights. Most “sensible” people can see that there is not a whole lot of sense being exhibited by some of these state legislatures and you had better bet that women are going to come out to vote. That will likely include quite a few trans women as well, because I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but they’re fighting the same or similar repressed ideologies. That makes them allies, not enemies.
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Haven’t spent much time in the southern Philippines or Singapore in the 70s, then. . . .
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I thought all deck cadets did. . . .
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True. No one gives a rats ass about anyone’s sexual orientation. That’s some Taliban or fundamentalist “Christian” crap. Thailand, Cambodia, the same. The attitude is live and let live.It is not an issue and for the life of me I do not understand why people in the USA are so wound up over it. Unless they are insecure in their own sexuality
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I wouldn’t bet on that being a deciding issue. While it seems like a nice fantasy for the left and reproductive rights is an lovely catch phrase to champion, what I’m hearing, at least from the women in my life and and in their circles is the exact opposite.
There’s no talk of disenfranchisement due to the keeping alive of “control structures” women have all the same rights as Men, and now Men are reaping the rewards for all of the hard fought rights they’ve earned through blood and tears by simply putting on a wig or getting some implants because they suffer from Gender Dysphoria.
This may be a hard pill to swallow, but no that doesn’t include the overturning of RvW or their access to clinics to terminate their unwanted pregnancies in late stages of gestation.
No…most seem, unsurprisingly perfectly fine with common sense limits and regulations in that regard similar to the rest of the developed world.
If you reside in the US it just may be time to climb out of that old echo chamber because it’s going to be a rough 8 years for you inside of it under a President DeSantis otherwise.
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And here we have the other straw man argument for pro-lifers. The “late stage abortion”. Something so rare and reserved for the most dire circumstances where the life of the mother could be at high risk, yet is always the tip of the spear for a talking point. It is fantastical reasoning to think that there are hordes of women, as well as doctors willing to perform such late term procedures, as some form of birth control. If you read my post and its mention of state legislatures putting forth some contrary to common sense legislation, you would get my meaning.
I have a good friend who is currently hospitalized in one of these states because of complications with her pregnancy. This is a woman who wants and yearns to have this child, but all signs and tests are pointing toward it being non-viable. Is it common sense to tell this woman that she is somehow at fault for this and MUST carry a possibly stillborn baby to term, in addition to her high likelihood of negative outcome for herself? Why should anyone tell another person that they cannot decide that for themselves? Why? Why? Why? Control is why.
And I’m the one in an echo chamber??
If being empathetic to women’s plight in this country is considered cool, you can call me Miles Davis.
And yes I am an American. For however much longer that lasts.
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If that’s the case, as you say, where is this
“assault” on reproductive rights? It seems that even the most pro-life states simply want a 1-2 term limit on termination, with all of the usual exceptions which are even more rare than late term abortions.
We are simply taking our place in line with the rest of the developed world.
The law is decided by the highest court in the land, the States should and will Govern themselves, passing their own legislation on the matter and, silly notion here but the people will decide how they feel about that when they are at the polls.
This is as it should be. I’m simply stating here and now that it’s not going to be a deciding factor in the next election as some are hoping for.
Speaking of straw man It’s a shame about your friend, shockingly I care about women too, as do others like myself. We have Daughters and Wives and some of those in our lives have had miscarriages.
Quite literally nobody wants to force a woman to carry a stillborn child, ectopic pregnancy etc so every one of these laws has exceptions and I never said such.
You did not say it, but I am sorry to tell you that there ARE people in power who are definitely saying such things.
Again, at the state level where these decisions will be made, the gerrymandering and voter suppression techniques will all but ensure this goes in one direction. If that doesn’t work, well they can always just claim it was a rigged election. Are you sensing a pattern here, because I sure am.
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The way I see it, forcing a woman to deliver and keep a brain-dead baby or one with no chance of a shot at life is not pro-life. It’s only pro-birth and devil take the hind most; a cruel form of punishment for both mother and child.
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Of course, people in power say all sorts of things to placate their constituents. There are those on the opposite side of the spectrum as well.
I don’t know about all of that, you can’t tell me that Oregon or California, New York don’t “Gerrymander” just under a different guise of some more palatable to the left type of redistricting.
I don’t really keep my finger on the pulse of those politics, I’m more fiscally and socially Conservative.
What I do see is a pattern of the vocal few pushing their agenda and and shouting down the voice of the silent majority who would prefer to just mind their own business and to live and let live.
But I digress,
Perhaps you’re right, and perhaps not. History will have to dictate the inevitable outcome and then we can revisit this discussion soon enough. Until then be safe out there, fair winds and following seas and all that.
That makes absolutely no sense and is simply a fallacy repeated for political gain.
I’m no doctor, but I am pretty sure a dead baby has to come out one way or another.
In the later stages of gestation that is done by medication or D&C accordingly or by whichever means is chosen by the parent.
I’m sure nobody is reeeealy “forcing” anyone to carry a dead fetus Captain but nice try 
That was worded incorrectly but if you want to grasp at straws, I’ll clarify to brain-dead, like you’re pretending to be.
If you’re pushing for pro-birth regardless of the circumstances, is there something specific in the bible that mandates it?
This is a joke, right? Is Ron Desantis the leader of this “silent majority?” Sure doesn’t seem like a live and let live set of policies coming out of Tallahassee from what I can discern.
I’m willing to leave this subject where it is. The thread is way off track and I’m definitely part of the reason why. I appreciate you volleying back and forth a bit. It is always interesting to hear perspectives from others, but there is a whole lot of stuff happening in this country at the local and state political level’s since the overturning of Roe and simply ignoring it will not make it go away. When they start going after people for crossing state lines to find proper medical care, we will have crossed a line as a country that will be very difficult to walk back. You can choose to believe that this won’t happen, but I am not as optimistic. The writing is on the wall and the next stages have played out many times throughout history with tragic results.
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Maybe not forcing them but making it incredibly difficult financially and logistically to do what medically would make sense
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The pro life crowd also is the keep the government out of the citizens life crowd.
As a famous philosopher said.
“Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that, they don’t wanna know about you. They don’t wanna hear from you. No nothing! No neonatal care, no daycare, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re preschool, you’re fucked.”
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