KP’s new woke ideology under Buttigieg

Now that is the ugly truth!

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Until you actually look at the data and realize that no, no it’s not an ugly truth. Recent studies suggest that Republicans are in fact more philanthropic than democrats.

We give to our communities monetarily and also through works, that may seem like an alien concept and hard to swallow.

Here, have a study;

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0899764018804088

Enjoy

Interesting take, especially when you look at the last line of the abstract and actually think about it for a bit.

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We also find that the “crowding in” effect of lower tax burdens on charitable giving only partially compensates for the loss of public revenue. Ultimately, total levels of redistribution—both private and government—are higher in Democratic-leaning counties.

Edit: another interesting quote from the abstract:

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However, the effect of political ideology on charitable contributions is nonlinear. As the proportion voting Republican in non-Republican-dominated counties increases, the predicted levels of charitable giving actually decreases.

It may be to someone who is not reading that abstract in its entirety or jumping to conclusions. Consider that they’re referring to the total* of Government funded programs through taxation and private contributions to charities in that paragraph combined.

It’s should be no surprise to anyone that Democrat controlled strongholds are notoriously higher taxed and therefore have more publicly run programs.

The fact remains that Republicans are more charitable, in the sense that they give more through Philanthropy as I clearly stated.

Wether or not private versus Government charity is more effective is another matter, but to state that “They just don’t care after childbirth” is patently false and an old, tired argument.

I would wager that there are 10 Christian run Pregnancy Resource Centers for every one Planned Parenthood, who by the way do quite a bit for their communities.
Not limited to but including providing food, car seats, diapers and counseling baby clothes, formulas etc to expectant and…not surprisingly Mothers hence the name.

Perhaps the real ugly truth one can garner from the study would be that Democrats simply don’t want to get their tender hands dirty being directly involved but would prefer to let the Government do it for them.

Have another;

Our meta-analysis results suggest that political conservatives are significantly more charitable than liberals at an overall level

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049089X21000752

That was already illegal except in cases of medical necessity.

That describes the laws as they were before overturning Roe vs Wade. Now the Republican states are going crazy.

Except they either don’t hand any exceptions or they’re worded so poorly that they are as legal gray area and are thus not exceptions.

And that’s legally an abortion.

Yes, but conservatives are the MINORITY shouting down the majority.

That’s the exact opposite of what vocal conservatives show via their actions.

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Which is hilarious because they’re the ones passing laws to interfere in the citizens’ lives.

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They already are.

You mean the few polling places that are left, or the new voter suppression laws? Fewer ballot boxes and a seriously crippled mail system make the people’s “feelings” a lot less relevant.

We have a minority rule as a result of all the gerrymandering and voter suppression. Only the seriously ignorant and intentionally blind could ever argue otherwise. If you want to see the inevitable outcome of this authoritarian paradise of minority rule all you have to do is watch old newsreels from 1945.

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We are heading further down the rabbit hole and I’ll not address the same redundant facts over and over, I’ll give a couple of links and we can do our due diligence.

It wasn’t already illegal.

Abortion in the US has been available on demand until fetal viability.
Doe vs Bolton defined those exceptions;
Exceptions such as mental health being one Including depression, emotional destress;

We even had an extreme example in partial birth abortions in the not so distant past, this took an act of Congress to outlaw…but still sort of allow in certain scenarios, all perfectly legal under Roe/Doe rulings.

According to federal law, women could choose to end their pregnancies in the ninth month. Some states have their own rules that limit this option, and only allow it for certain cases.
On the other hand, there are seven states and the District of Columbia that don’t have any restrictions and allow an abortion until birth for any reason. Those would be;
Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington, D.C.

Yes, but conservatives are the MINORITY shouting down the majority.

If that’s how you feel, I suppose I feel different.

That’s the exact opposite of what vocal conservatives show via their actions

We need specifics it seems, but I don’t feel like going that far down the rabbit hole today.
I will say though, most of us are moderate, with an even split on both sides identifying as either Conservative or Liberal accordingly.

What you’re seeing now is a push back from the otherwise quiet house wives and family men, this is simply being taken up like a torch by Political opportunists. As they do.

Which is hilarious because they’re the ones passing laws to interfere in the citizens’ lives.

Well the SCOTUS overturned Roe, it’s left up to the States to make their laws and regulate accordingly. Depending on the state, those laws may be more to the left or more to the right.
It’s up to the people to hold those legislators accountable if they don’t like the outcome.

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This would be very easy to look at in depth and show you that both sides use this practice.
But I don’t see why I should. Lol voter suppression? Come on.
If you lose the presidential election it’s because your geriatric candidate is his own worst enemy and nobody wants a president Harris either.

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Then the fact that they basically never happen disproves your assertion that women “terminate their unwanted pregnancies in late stages of gestation.” The reality is that basically no one gets to that point in a pregnancy that doesn’t want the baby so late term abortions happen because they need to, not because anyone wants them.

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But they do? I guess I should clarify that to me personally and for the sake of the conversation we are having, I refer to medical necessity being a stillborn, a miscarriage or to save the life of the mother. “emotional distress” or “depression” are reasons that are also considered, at least according to Doe v Bolton to be valid.
According to recent CDC data, Gutmacher and Pew 1-2% of abortions are in the third trimester and a vast majority of those are elective.
And that’s just what is reported or we are led to believe because, isn’t a federal requirement to report, and no requirement to report by gestation either.
The CDC received abortion gestation statistics in 2018 from 42 reporting areas.

You know we moved back to Europe a few years ago for work.

After 40+ years working in the maritime industry if some one was gay, wore women’s clothes ashore, whatever … as long as they were a good shipmate no one cared. I don’t care. My neighbors don’t care. Trans, green hair, whatever. Woke or snowflake or whatever is just politicians winding people up over nonsense. Some people like winding others up.

And those that enjoy winding up division or hate onboard or ashore are not good shipmates.

So the next time I go to the bathroom in Ibiza and it’s all sexes all in one, or see the happy young kids on our N German city street holding hands, I’ll have a good laugh…and think how artificially wound up everyone in Amurca became because politicians wanted something and discovered hate made it easy to cling onto power without delivering anything.

And yes I confess I really loved winding up that C Captain guy on the Forum a few years back though.

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I feel this is the majority of the American public sentiment. Just let people live their lives, doesn’t affect me.

This nonsensical media conflict is simply a distraction. Corporations and companies gut pensions, wages stagnate, the middle class bleeds and we sit here and eat each other over MSNBC vs FOX on FaceSpace.

Congress insider trading….etc

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So it’s your opinion that political debates are from two different perspectives, one side gets news from Fox and the other side from MSNBC. Do you have any evidence that’s the case? Aside from seeming plausible to you?

George Carlin! Lets go!

I am returning to 1970 when woke is when the alarm clock went off.

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I can only guess that my previous post was misconstrued.

Kennebec… I am simply attempting to point out that the American Public is more divided than ever. Each “side” subsists in their “camp” and echo chamber, lobbing bombs at the other.

I am not trying to say this is “black and white”, but the complete opposite. I believe most persons lie somewhere between. I was using the extremes to illustrate my point.

I fully understand that Fox and MSNBC are not necessarily the extremes, there are much worse news and opinion sources available.