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[QUOTE=Saltgrain;174684] Every time you mention an academy female there is some derision on your part.[/QUOTE]

What the FUCK are you talking about? I I have plenty of FEMALE Academy grads as friends.
I have heard their stories too, it is no cake walk being a woman in ANY industry in this country besides maybe nursing and K-12 education

[QUOTE=c.captain;174683]and they serve ice cream with the tasty cake but only after a successful brainwashing session. if you are a bad student who rebels against the entrenched autocrat rulers then there are the vivisection sessions in a room where no one can hear your screams!

did I mention that besides the band they have a dinghy sailing team too!

such fun…HUZZAH![/QUOTE]

Yea, I have heard terrible things about the place, just plain F-ed up but accomplishing if you can get through it. I wanted to go there but the stories scared me and I thought the hawsepipe would easier LOL

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As 2015 begins to draw to a close, how about just declaring this the most pathetic thread of the year?

And cajaya, why the hell do you bother with this? What do you get out of this, except attention?

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Saltgrain, I am not going to keep reading the trash you continue to write…I am really falling behind on my studies. But I will say this:

Yes, maybe the GoM should have indoctrination like the military does, accept for instead of having everyone take these courses, they should put the newly hired women in them only. The course material should be something along the lines of this:

[I]Please ladies, remember the offshore workers, especially if they are from southern states, are used to being the big hancho king of the house, they are not really used to being around any women that are self sufficient or that have any power at all. Usually, when they say the magic words: “I work offshore”, they are used to having women drop their panties and swoon over them (remember, this is not their fault…this is just the only way they are used to women behaving). If you are not interested in them, at least pretend that you are willing to entertain the idea, this is because their ginormous backwards hick egos are very fragile, so you want to be very careful with the delicate balance of gently letting them down, but assuring them it is not because you don’t think they are God’s greatest gift to women. If anything, say it is because you are married, or that you like women. Also, try not to fix anything, this will really upset the balance on board and make the crew unhappy. If you absolutely MUST fix something, try to do it at night, in the dark when no one is watching, and be absolutely sure no ones knows about it. Remember, this is only as a last resort because you are no supposed to be doing anything accept for giggling and praising them in the first place.
Also: try to not dress too provocatively, that means no tight fitting clothes, no jeans, absolutely as little as possible skin showing, that includes forearms.
Another option is go to work dressed like this. They will think you are a terrorist and be scared to go near you at all.


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[I]This is a good way too because there will also be no woman bodily parts showing (including forearms). If you decide to go this route, make sure your abaya is not too tight, as this will be much invitation for bad behavior and will show that you have mad morals as a woman

Another option is to get married. The only reason women are allowed in the first place, is to be the companions of men, and it is encouraged that all good women get married like they are supposed to do. Actually, women should be under the representation of a man, either a father or a spouse.
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I would think loose clothing would be a safety hazard around moving machinery.

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[QUOTE=cajaya;174695]Saltgrain, I am not going to continue to read the trash you continue to write…I am really falling behind on my studies. But I will say this:

Yes, maybe the GoM should have indoctrination like the military does, accept for instead of having everyone take these courses, they should put the newly hired women in them only. The course material should be something along the lines of this:

[I]Please ladies, remember the offshore workers, especially if they are from southern states, are used to being the big hancho king of the house, they are not really used to being around any women that are self sufficient or that have any power at all. Usually, when they say the magic words: “I work offshore”, they are used to having women drop their panties and swoon over them (remember, this is not their fault…this is just the only way they are used to women behaving). If you are not interested in them, at least pretend that you are willing to entertain the idea, this is because their ginormous backwards hick egos are very fragile, so you want to be very careful with the delicate balance of gently letting them down, but assuring them it is not because you don’t think they are God’s greatest gift to women. If anything, say it is because you are married, or that you like women. Also, try not to fix anything, this will really upset the balance on board and make the crew unhappy. If you absolutely MUST fix something, try to do it at night, in the dark when no one is watching, and be absolutely sure no ones knows about it. Remember, this is only as a last resort because you are no supposed to be doing anything accept for giggling and praising them in the first place.
Also: try to not dress too provocatively, that means no tight fitting clothes, no jeans, absolutely as little as possible skin showing, that includes forearms.
Another option is go to work dressed like this. They will think you are a terrorist and be scared to go near you at all.


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[I]This is a good way too because there will also be no woman bodily parts showing (including forearms). If you decide to go this route, make sure your abaya is not too tight, as this will be much invitation for bad behavior and will show that you have mad morals as a woman

Another option is to just get married. The only reason women are allowed in the first place, is to be the companions of men, and it is encouraged that all good women to get married like they are supposed to do. Actually, women should be under the representation of a man, either a father or a spouse.
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OMG… you are delusional. No one ever said you have to stroke an ego (or anything else for that matter). Generally women (and men) have learned to be civil and polite when turning down overturs from the opposite sex. Happens in workplaces, nightclubs, schools and grocery stores for that matter. A polite “not interested” isn’t protecting fragile egos it is being a normal person in a civilized society. Also, if you have failed to grasp the “don’t monkey with stuff if you are told not to” concept then really this conversation does need to end and I am hoping you are studying for a job outside the industry! Seriously “fix behind their backs”… geeezus… lady if they tell you not to mess with it… DON’t! They may have very good reasons why and you might not need to know. Ultimately the Chief is responsible for what happens and if THEY don’t have a problem then you don’t have one. When you go aboard you do what you are told… if you have ideas of other stuff you want to do (because you have already completed every task you have been given) and you see something else that you can do… ASK if it’s ok. Just because you think you know how to do something… and just because you assume they don’t know how… doesn’t give you the right to just do what you want. You seem to be more interested in showing off your “talents” than actually being a functioning member of the team… and THAT is why you failed. No one likes a show off or know it all (esp when they likely don’t)… male or female… seriously. Sure everyone has egos (ahem… yours is massive)… and most people have at least attempted to help you see that while your experience may have been what it was… that sometimes you may have contributed to your own drama. You can’t take advice nor criticism… both particularly bad things in a junior employee.

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Yes, maybe the GoM should have indoctrination like the military does, accept for instead of having everyone take these courses, they should put the newly hired women in them only. The course material should be something along the lines of this:

[I]Please ladies, remember the offshore workers, especially if they are from southern states, are used to being the big hancho king of the house, they are not really used to being around any women that are self sufficient or that have any power at all. Usually, when they say the magic words: “I work offshore”, they are used to having women drop their panties and swoon over them (remember, this is not their fault…this is just the only way they are used to women behaving). If you are not interested in them, at least pretend that you are willing to entertain the idea, this is because their ginormous backwards hick egos are very fragile, so you want to be very careful with the delicate balance of gently letting them down, but assuring them it is not because you don’t think they are God’s greatest gift to women. If anything, say it is because you are married, or that you like women. Also, try not to fix anything, this will really upset the balance on board and make the crew unhappy. If you absolutely MUST fix something, try to do it at night, in the dark when no one is watching, and be absolutely sure no ones knows about it. Remember, this is only as a last resort because you are no supposed to be doing anything accept for giggling and praising them in the first place.
Also: try to not dress too provocatively, that means no tight fitting clothes, no jeans, absolutely as little as possible skin showing, that includes forearms.
Another option is go to work dressed like this. They will think you are a terrorist and be scared to go near you at all.


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[I]This is a good way too because there will also be no womanly body parts showing (including forearms). If you decide to go this route, make sure your abaya is not too tight, as this will be much invitation for bad behavior and will show that you have bad morals as a woman

Another option is to get married. The only reason women are allowed in the first place, is to be the companions of men, and it is encouraged that all good women get married like they are supposed to do. Actually, women should be under the representation of a man, either a father or a spouse.

If you refuse to get married, it is absolutely imperative that you say you are already married and buy a wedding ring, even if you state in a simple and matter of fact way the logical reasons behind your decision, nothing will be good enough unless you are lesbian or taken already. “A woman does not like me and does not think I am God’s greatest gift to women” does not compute in the southern backwards hick mindset.
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[QUOTE=cajaya;174699]Yes, maybe the GoM should have indoctrination like the military does, accept for instead of having everyone take these courses, they should put the newly hired women in them only. The course material should be something along the lines of this:

[I]Please ladies, remember the offshore workers, especially if they are from southern states, are used to being the big hancho king of the house, they are not really used to being around any women that are self sufficient or that have any power at all. Usually, when they say the magic words: “I work offshore”, they are used to having women drop their panties and swoon over them (remember, this is not their fault…this is just the only way they are used to women behaving). If you are not interested in them, at least pretend that you are willing to entertain the idea, this is because their ginormous backwards hick egos are very fragile, so you want to be very careful with the delicate balance of gently letting them down, but assuring them it is not because you don’t think they are God’s greatest gift to women. If anything, say it is because you are married, or that you like women. Also, try not to fix anything, this will really upset the balance on board and make the crew unhappy. If you absolutely MUST fix something, try to do it at night, in the dark when no one is watching, and be absolutely sure no ones knows about it. Remember, this is only as a last resort because you are no supposed to be doing anything accept for giggling and praising them in the first place.
Also: try to not dress too provocatively, that means no tight fitting clothes, no jeans, absolutely as little as possible skin showing, that includes forearms.
Another option is go to work dressed like this. They will think you are a terrorist and be scared to go near you at all.


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[I]This is a good way too because there will also be no woman bodily parts showing (including forearms). If you decide to go this route, make sure your abaya is not too tight, as this will be much invitation for bad behavior and will show that you have mad morals as a woman

Another option is to get married. The only reason women are allowed in the first place, is to be the companions of men, and it is encouraged that all good women get married like they are supposed to do. Actually, women should be under the representation of a man, either a father or a spouse.

If you refuse to get married, it is absolutely imperative that you say you are already married and buy a wedding ring, even if you state in a simple and matter of fact way the logical reasons behind your decision, nothing will be good enough unless you are lesbian or taken already. “A woman does not like me and does not think I am God’s greatest gift to women” does not compute in the southern backwards hick mindset.
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You really miss the point. No one is saying you have to stroke egos (or anything else). It’s called being personable and not alienating someone you have to work with. Women and men get hit on at work, school, bars and grocery stores for that matter. Most people (normal ones anyway) have figured out how to be polite when turning someone down. The “fixing things at night” really is bothersome. What possesses you to go mess with stuff you have been specifically told to NOT touch? Seriously… there may be a good reason why you shouldn’t and despite the fact that you THINK you know everything, you probably really don’t. Just cause you “can” do something… doesn’t mean you always should. Knew someone worked in the nuclear field… were an engineer and visiting a nuke unit and they flipped a breaker to “reset” an alarm… I mean… nuke engineer should know how right? BUT it wasn’t their job and it was a very bad thing to do. They were just trying to “help out” but didn’t follow the right protocol. Same with you… you are the new guy… you do what your supervisor says… and when you finish ALL those tasks… and you see something else that you could work on you effing ask your supervisor if you can do it. If they say no (for whatever reason they might have… that they don’t need to tell you)… then you should ask them what you should do “next”. That’s what it means to be at your level. Maybe the anger you saw when you decided to do a class on Tap and Die was actually their irritation that you hadn’t completed the x number of tasks you WERE asked to do? Look, it’s great that you have all that knowledge and that you want to share it… just bubbling up out of you… but you forgot your place in the hierarchy… and THAT caused you problems. It’s not about their egos… it’s about YOU learning to take direction and be part of the team. They do not want you ad-libbing in the engine room.

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Sorry for the somewhat double post… we all make mistakes… some bigger than others.

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Just a quick interject: it’s Oxytocin, the chemical released in your brain when you’re falling in love. Not drugs. Read a little more carefully.

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Yea you’re right, maybe I have dislexia. I really didn’t stay on the page long, just enough to see the comments about pageviews and the “I’m in college” part.
I also have never heard that about “millenials”. I know plenty of “millenials”, people in my age range don’t act like that that I know of. I have seen it in the 20-24 age bracket at work, but I assumed that was a maturity thing more than anything.

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[QUOTE=Saltgrain;174702]
Maybe the anger you saw when you decided to do a class on Tap and Die was actually their irritation that you hadn’t completed the x number of tasks you WERE asked to do? [/QUOTE]
Or maybe you weren’t there and don’t know what you are talking about. And maybe he was just an ignorant person that didn’t know how to use a tap and die set, and it injured his male chauvinistic ego to see a woman using one.

For the most part ship engineers don’t act that way. Seems like ship engineers are more professional, and don’t feel threatened by every little thing. Of course, there are acceptions. And no, not all GoM mariners behave like ignorant chauvinistic hicks…there are acceptions to that too.

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[QUOTE=cajaya;174621]I dislike people who are pretentious and assuming, regardless of their gender.[/QUOTE]

I take it you did not read this sentence a second time before hitting the post reply button, right?

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[QUOTE=cajaya;174711]Yea you’re right, maybe I have dislexia.

I also have never heard that about “millenials”. .[/QUOTE]

Apparently, she has been living under a rock.

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[QUOTE=tugsailor;174719]Apparently, she has been living under a rock.[/QUOTE]

Not a rock, the Maine engine.

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Lol honestly, if I weren’t married I’d offer to fly to wherever and take you out for a night. You could wear a chastity belt or bring a chaperone to keep things kosher too because it wouldn’t be about fucking, unless it was mutual of course. Sometimes you just hit it off. It would be worth it to meet the woman behind the username. Maybe John or another admin could arrange something and do an interview in the name of journalism? Seeing as you’ve been wronged so badly, so many times it may make a good story. Maybe Rachel Maddow?

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[QUOTE=z-drive;174723]Lol honestly, if I weren’t married I’d offer to fly to wherever and take you out for a night. You could wear a chastity belt or bring a chaperone to keep things kosher too because it wouldn’t be about fucking, unless it was mutual of course. Sometimes you just hit it off. It would be worth it to meet the woman behind the username. Maybe John or another admin could arrange something and do an interview in the name of journalism? Seeing as you’ve been wronged so badly, so many times it may make a good story. Maybe Rachel Maddow?[/QUOTE]

I think you would be very disappointed.

Rachel Maddow may be very liberal, but she is really smart and well educated. She would not waste a minute of her time on this silly chick.

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ok…Nancy grace then?

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[QUOTE=tugsailor;174726]I think you would be very disappointed.

Rachel Maddow may be very liberal, but she is really smart and well educated. She would not waste a minute of her time on this silly chick.[/QUOTE]
First of all, this is a non issue.
Secondly, I am sure you are very educated yourself with your PhD in microphysics n all.

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I’m glad I laid you off, I need to add a psych evaluation to my hiring process. I feel very fortunate there wasn’t a “missing person” onboard one of my vessels.

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[QUOTE=Jeaux Bawss;174733]I’m glad I laid you off, I need to add a psych evaluation to my hiring process. I feel very fortunate there wasn’t a “missing person” onboard one of my vessels.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should add an ignorant hick evaluation too.

Oh, I’m sorry…what was I thinking? That is the hiring CRITERIA.

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[QUOTE=z-drive;174729]ok…Nancy grace then?[/QUOTE]

Jerry Springer or maybe Dr. Phil.