Aha, that explains it:
Is it possible that Trump will meet some resistance (finally):
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-25/germany-weighs-measures-against-u-s-over-nord-stream-sanctions
He will probably throw a fit and threaten even more sanctions.
No change he will figure out that he is not the âWorld Dictatorâ, is there??
Russia hope to complete the Nordstream 2 project by the end of this year to ensure energy security for Europe:
Denmark give itâs nod to restart work on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline:
https://www.reuters.com/article/gazprom-nord-stream-2-denmark/update-1-denmark-gives-nord-stream-2-nod-to-restart-pipeline-work-idUSL8N2ED1RY#:~:text=COPENHAGEN%2C%20July%206%20(Reuters),Russian%20natural%20gas%20to%20Europe.
Nice to see you active again on the forum.
A bit surprising that both the US and Russia claim to care a lot about European energy security.
Could not possible have anything to do with securing market for surplus Natural Gas, could it?
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Whereas Norway and Poland also benefit from Germanyâs appetite for natural gas, but seem to be letting Germany make the free choices of a rational consumer as if capitalism was more than just a nice-in-theory pipe dream. No, no-one believes that a German port will be sanctioned for its own good.
On the other hand, why does Germany need the gas so badly, right now, and damn the consequences? It seems to be because they are narrowly focused on achieving their green economy transformation goals. âGreenâ as a value to the exclusion of all others is too easy a mark for a commodity to hit, and camouflages a lot of other harm and irrationality.
Yes Norway has a gas pipeline to Germany and there are probably some LNG cargoes going there as well. No protest against Nordstream 2 though.
Donât know if Poland sell any gas to Germany, but they may have some other reasons to protest against this pipeline.
Norway consume very little in country but export their production of oil and gas to anybody that can pay,
I donât know if any Norwegian company is/will be hit by this unilateral US sanction, but it is possible.
I suppose Swinoujscie might count as a reason. Or maybe they get the feeling that European economic cooperation doesnât apply to Poland, somehow?
oh, and there was that little cut-off-the-gas-during-a-coldsnap⌠thing.
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An insightful panel discussion on the topic.
Would it have been so painful to include an expert from Poland or Ukraine? Nevermind! Weâll just wring our hands bemoaning that we never listen to them when they also have skin in the game. Germanyâs argument seems to be: âbut weâre not over-leveraged, so whatâs the problem?â without taking in to account the danger they are putting their neighbours in. Germany benefits from the low wages and highly trained skill sets of eastern European workers, and therefor seems to have every reason to sabotage or neglect anything that might benefit Eastern Europeâs security, prosperity, or standing among other nations.
Construction of the last bit of Nord Stream 2 pipeline (2.6 km) to continue before the end of 2020:
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/gazprom-to-resume-nord-stream-2-pipe-laying-before-year-end/#:~:text=Gas%20giant%20Gazprom%20has%20decided,pipeline%20from%20Russia%20to%20Germany.
The last bit in German waters are now completed:
Now is left the part in Danish waters.
Trump doesnât give up hope of forcing his will on the Europeans:
DLB Oceanic 5000:
Work goes ahead to prepare for completion of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline in Danish waters:
Nord Stream 2 Pipeline: Prep Work for Works in.
Second pipelay vessel join the Nord Stream 2 effort:
Second pipelayer to join Nord Stream 2 construction - Offshore Energy.
Sanctions were lifted a few days ago according to what I read. Fair enough, why should the US impose sanctions on a matter between Russia and other European countries over a pipe line? None of the USAâs business. If one is in the oil/gas business it is a good move as it will increase the use of gas, lower reserves and increase prices,
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Sanctions were lifted a few days ago according to what I read. Fair enough, why should the US impose sanctions on a matter between Russia and other European countries over a pipe line? [/quote]
Because my tax dollars are defending Germany under the pretext that Russia is a threat. Germany imports almost 40% of her energy from Russia as it stands now, to say nothing of the amount upon completion of the NordStream project. Instead of building a pipeline that strengthens an adversaries (Russiaâs) hold on the European energy market, the Germans could have imported American LNG.
This to me is a big tell. When you couple it with the fact that the Germans have habitually missed their annual 2% NATO contribution it means that Russia is not really a threat and Germany is a poor strategic partner. Time to move our troops to other parts of Europe, or even home.
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Some of the gas that will come through the Nordstream 2 pipeline will be distributed to other EU counties.
Some of the Russian gas consumed in EU now comes via Ukraine and Poland for a fee, which was another reason the US opposed Nordstream 2.
Yes they could, or they could import LNG from any number of other sources, like Qatar, or even from Russia. Soon Cyprus or Egypt may be a source of gas by pipeline, or as LNG.
It is not 2% NATO contribution, but 2% of GDP spent on defence that is the contention. It has been agreed to reach that target in 2024.