Hello everyone,
I’m currently sailing as a 2nd mate on Crowley’s ATBs and was hoping to get into work elsewhere. I have experience with tankers, car carriers, and some container shipping, though I’m more than willing to get into other fields as well.
I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge on who might be hiring mates or which union has the best opportunities.
Thanks for your time and help!
[QUOTE=cmatt1a;152494]Hello everyone,
I’m currently sailing as a 2nd mate on Crowley’s ATBs and was hoping to get into work elsewhere. I have experience with tankers, car carriers, and some container shipping, though I’m more than willing to get into other fields as well.
I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge on who might be hiring mates or which union has the best opportunities.
Thanks for your time and help![/QUOTE]
Can I ask what it is about Crowley ATB’s that’s made you want to look elsewhere? I’ve had some friends and colleagues try to bring me over there but I haven’t really looked into it as of yet. I’m curious to hear the opposite, that is to say, why some one would want to be getting out, not in.
you are picking a horrible time to make a change…there’s no place to go!
stay right where you are and be happy
[QUOTE=c.captain;152497]you are picking a horrible time to make a change…there’s no place to go!
stay right where you are and be happy[/QUOTE]
There is an opening for a Alaska Pilot Trainee. Also, New York Harbor is looking for a couple of Docking Pilot Trainees.
yes with 5+ years time as a tug captain/mate and NY harbor pilotage.
There seem to be enough tugboat (conventional wire towing) jobs around — I get about one call per week. Someone calls from Crowley about once every month or two. Companies are also looking for tugboat mates.
However, I do not know anything about ATBs.
How many ATBs in the fleet? Isn’t it less than a hundred?
There are a lot of ex-Crowley guys around. The complaints I hear are that its a low paying union job. Crowley is very bureaucratic with more paperwork than anywhere else. They have too many bad managers micromanaging the mariners and treating them like children.
From what I hear, Crowley’s bad manager rejects are polluting the managerial staff at more and more other companies.
Not to kick off another KP debate, but isn’t most of their managerial staff made up of clipboard-wielding armchair pirates from KP? That would seem at least somewhat analogous with the plight of their managerial structuring. Never worked there though, couldn’t say, just a rumor.
[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;152520]Not to kick off another KP debate.[/QUOTE]
why ever not? It seems like forever since we pummeled that ugly dog and kicked it into the gutter. Where oh where is the UniBlab when we need him at such a fortuitous moment?
here’s a question to ponder…we have had many students from the state schools come on here to ask questions (many lame but that is for another thread) so how come we have never ever once had a student from that most grandiose of “jewel” encrusted institutions ever come on here and actually admit that is there present school? Are they ashamed to admit they are at KP or are they muzzled by the heavy hand of Captain Joe Commandant, USMS or is it both? Makes one wonder now doesn’t it?
Hey all you KP kiddies…how’s that sooper dooper advanced state of the art DP training vessel working out for you? Graduation’s coming. Y’all just drooling all over yourselves at all the huge money you’ll be making soon down in the GoM? Better strike up the band in celebration!
ROTFLMAO!
Crowley’s ATB managers are huge fans of KPers for a reason I still can’t figure out, but they are not a bunch of Kings Pointers themselves. Crowley is sort of an anomaly in the sense that they look at Cal Maritime kids in the same light that many other people in the industry look at Kings Pointers.
The paperwork here is substantial, yes, and the managers don’t necessarily treat us like children so much as they treat us like we’re expendable- until someone else quits or gets hurt and they need you to pick up the slack, in which case you’re the best employee they’ve ever seen. The job is indeed on the low end of the typical pay scale, but people stay for the short rotations which seems to be the trade off you sign up for when you get hired.
As for the size of the fleet, there are 17 ATBs, some MM&P/IBU and some SIU.
Also, thank you for your responses!