I’m struggling,Is this an oxymoron?? 
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Mentions of golf by the Godfather of Troll: 3
Pressing issues that must be kept at the forefront of the national conscience.
Haha… Somehow I doubt this will come up during the presidential debates. “Trump, you’re always making mistakes in your public comments” is not a winning platform for 'ol Joe
Australian scientist were able to kill corona virus in a test tube with a combo of chloroquine and some old AIDS drug.
As they are both tested and approved I think they started using it in OZ last week?
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Haha… You said it, I didn’t… Another point I showed a high level of restraint on. Didn’t want anyone crying to the moderator about being “offended”
Well, you’re stating you’re indifferent to lies and misstatements that may be made by a President and a candidate so that’s a bizarre opinion you have on politics and a sad statement on your values. But the important thing is that you’re acknowledging Trump makes multiple lies and errors in public statements. Good for you buddy. Baby steps.
So the count to three and take a deep breath doesn’t work for some in this crowd. We are mature adults right? How about the look in the mirror thing and talk to your image. Will you argue with yourself? Who would win, you or your image? Try it, you may or may not like the results. Federal Government Crisis Management. That was the topic right?
It was—so, has the President made multiple false statements as shown in the media, SeaEagle?
Yeah I tried to get it back on track earlier but to no avail. Also tried the deep breaths thing too but gaffes and golf games are still on his mind.
And three—so the president has made multiple false statements right on the pandemic response right, Hawse?
Definitely a better way to go would’ve been to get up there and say we’re unprepared for this and it’s gonna sweep through the country like wildfire. Everyone should sell all their stocks right now and go raid every grocery store within driving distance as soon as they’re able. Good call
You seem to be unaware of the lies so here you go:
February 26: Trump baselessly predicts the number of US cases is “going very substantially down” to "close to zero"
Trump said: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” And he said: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Facts First : Clearly, the number of US cases and deaths was going up, not down. As the New York Times noted in its own fact check, both Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Principal Deputy Director Dr. Anne Schuchat said at the same press conference that they expected “more cases.”
There were 60 total cases in the US on the day Trump spoke here. The “15 people” referred to the cases that did not involve people who had been on the Diamond Princess cruise ship or who had been repatriated from China.
No point bothering with the rest of the list, not like you can challenge them.
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You’re starting to convince me… The much better way to go would’ve been to
I think your crisis management strategy would have resulted in a much more favorable outcome than where we currently are.
You guys debating with JB are wasting your time & look foolish. He will never change his mind, admit any fault on the part of a Democrat, give any credit to a Republican or give up arguing with you. I have grown to suspect he gets an hourly wage to do as such. If you want him to quite down change the subject to something maritime related & you won’t here a peep out of him. You right of center guys would have better luck at getting the seas to calm down by shooting them with a fire monitor compared to coming to a political consensus with JB.
Sorry, I’m unclear on your position, when I said [quote=“Jamesbrown, post:152, topic:54590”]
February 26: Trump baselessly predicts the number of US cases is “going very substantially down” to "close to zero"
Trump said: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” And he said: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Facts First : Clearly, the number of US cases and deaths was going up, not down. As the New York Times noted in its own fact check, both Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Principal Deputy Director Dr. Anne Schuchat said at the same press conference that they expected “more cases.”
There were 60 total cases in the US on the day Trump spoke here. The “15 people” referred to the cases that did not involve people who had been on the Diamond Princess cruise ship or who had been repatriated from China.
No point bothering with the rest of the list, not like you can challenge them.
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That’s you’re way of saying it’s correct, right?
There’s no need for name calling SP, they don’t look foolish. It’s something else.
I admit plenty of faults of Dems, the folks supporting the most corrupt GOP ever seem to have difficulty admitting what courts have already ruled on.
By my uneducated math calculations, and regular purchases, and non hoarding, I have at least a month or two to “Survive” this crisis. Now, some of the stores have a special time for us seniors to fill up the parking lots early and knock each other over the heads with our canes to get to the paper goods lane. What a wonderful world we live in. Mr Trump did not create this massive greed, it has been there all along .
Very true but I like getting him to talk. Exactly the same way as it was with ombugge on the topic of China. The point is not to change his mind (not possible) but rather to bring the hypocrisies to light. It makes me laugh when he gets fired up… The Godfather of Troll…I like it
For them to be hypocrisy, you need to show they are false—you know, like I’ve been pointing out in your posts.
Some times you have to cut the hook out of a fish’s mouth because they keep biting no matter what. The fish just don’t know any better.
March 4: Trump falsely claims Obama impeded testing
Trump claimed he had reversed a decision by President Barack Obama’s administration that had impeded testing for the coronavirus, saying that “the Obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we’re doing. And we undid that decision a few days ago so that the testing can take place in a much more accurate and rapid fashion. That was a decision we disagreed with.” He said on March 5: “They made some decisions which were not good decisions…We undid some of the regulations that were made that made it very difficult, but I’m not blaming anybody.”
Facts First : There is no Obama-era decision or rule that impeded coronavirus testing . The Obama administration did put forward a draft proposal related to lab testing, but it was never implemented.
When asked what Obama administration decision Trump might be referring to, Peter Kyriacopolous, chief policy officer at the Association of Public Health Laboratories, said: “We aren’t sure what rule is being referenced.”
Dr. Joshua Sharfstein, who was principal deputy commissioner of the FDA under Obama and is now professor of the practice at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said, “There wasn’t a policy that was put into place that inhibited them. There was no Obama policy they were reversing.”
March 4: Trump wrongly says as many as 100,000 people died of the flu in 1990
Speaking about deaths from the flu, Trump said on March 4: “I think we went as high as 100,000 people died in 1990, if you can believe that.” He said on March 6 that as many as 77,000 people might die in a given year, then added: “And I guess they said, in 1990, that was in particular very bad; it was higher than that.”
Facts First : While the 1989-1990 flu season was considered bad at the time – the CDC declared that it was an epidemic – Trump greatly overstated the number of deaths. A CDC analysis in 2010 estimated that there were 26,582 deaths from the seasonal flu in 1989-1990. (The same analysis found that this number of deaths was exceeded in nine of the 17 subsequent flu seasons through 2006-2007.)
March 4: Trump says "the borders are automatically shut down"
Trump said during a meeting with airline chief executives: “And we’re talking about the effects of the virus on air travel and what they see. In a certain way, you could say that the borders are automatically shut down, without having to say ‘shut down.’ I mean, they’re, to a certain extent, automatically shut down.”
Facts First : Trump did not explain what he meant by “the borders are automatically shut down.” Trump’s travel restrictions on China do not constitute a complete border closure even on China in particular.
Trump’s China policy prohibits entry into the US by non-Americans who have been in China within 14 days – but it makes exceptions for immediate family members of American citizens and permanent residents. And American citizens themselves are freeto go back and forth.
Returning citizens who have been in Hubei Province in the previous 14 days are subject to up to 14 days of mandatory quarantine, while citizens who have been in the rest of mainland China in the previous 14 days “will undergo proactive entry health screening at a select number of ports of entry and up to 14 days of monitored self-quarantine,” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said. Still, this is not a shutdown.
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