Hello new here,
So I'm about to begin the process of ab to 3rd mate
and trying to get the assessments signed off.
I work on an OSV with several 1600t masters.
the problem is knowing whom can sign me off.
Must they have completed the train the trainer course?
The only 2 assessment I need are OICNW 1-5f and 1-5g.
Also one master is near coastal. No oceans endoursment
is he able to sign for that? Also what about a 500t master?
Are the able to sign anything for 3rd mate.
Thanks for any help. Trying to avoid a kick back.
Also only have a phone 4 computer, so it’s tough to type.
[QUOTE=Waterborne;44014]Hello new here,
So I'm about to begin the process of ab to 3rd mate
and trying to get the assessments signed off.
I work on an OSV with several 1600t masters.
the problem is knowing whom can sign me off.
Must they have completed the train the trainer course?
The only 2 assessment I need are OICNW 1-5f and 1-5g.
Also one master is near coastal. No oceans endoursment
is he able to sign for that? Also what about a 500t master?
Are the able to sign anything for 3rd mate.
Thanks for any help. Trying to avoid a kick back.
Also only have a phone 4 computer, so it’s tough to type.[/QUOTE]
A 1600 ton Master can sign, and I think a 500 ton Master can as well. So can a 2nd Mate or higher. Policy letter 01-02, the one where the assessments came from, explains who can sign. There is no requirement to be an assessor other than reading the policy letter that explains what is expected, and it goes as far as explaining the assessor is only liable for witnessing competency during the actual assessments. The assessor is not liable for actions by someone after-the-fact.
Remember that OICNW are the assessments needed to 500 ton Mate, 1600 ton Mate, and 3rd Mate. Those are the ones that are not allowed to sign. Obviously, the Coast Guard doesn’t want green mates doing assessments.
OICNW 1-5f & 1-5g are for the magnetic compass and gyro. The assessor does not need an Oceans endorsement for those. http://www.qualitymaritime.info/Press/OICNW%20ASSMT%20Checklist.pdf
That’s what I was hoping.
Thanks for the quick responce!
Don’t forget too complete the required training!
Just because you get the assessments signed off does not mean the required training is not required. In addition to being able to do the tasks, you also have to sit through the classes also. The classes are listed in NMC Policy Letter 01-02 and on the checklist on the NMC website.
I have all my assessments complete but the USCG is fighting me on the required training.
The training is not to be done by the master.
Those should all be covered by various couses ie terrestrial.
Correct?
[QUOTE=Waterborne;44020]The training is not to be done by the master.
Those should all be covered by various couses ie terrestrial.
Correct?[/QUOTE]
Correct, training is the compass course, basic stability, cargo handling, search and rescue, etc. Go to the NMC website and download the checklist for 3rd mate and you will have what they use to process you application. Depending on where you have taken these courses, because not all are the same, you might have those assessments signed off already. All classes are different some have the assessments and you don’t get control sheets because it is written into the course approval letter from the coast guard.
Good luck.
Also get a copy of The New Hawespiper. It will answer almost all your questions and just make plain sense of everything.
http://thenewhawsepipe.com/