That’s Bill Engvall. Jeff Foxworthy has “You might be a redneck” bit.
[QUOTE=farmerfalconer;169195]Personally, I would prefer to avoid the union. I want to be the one to decide when, where, and how long I am allowed to work. From what I am told, Union mariners are limited to 6 months at sea. What about a young guy who is single and wants to rack up sea time and work longer than that?
Feel free to educate me on unions though as my knowledge is limited.[/QUOTE]
Just asked my SIU oiler about this since it seemed off. There is no limit on how much sea time you work in a year. I’ve had wipers do eight months straight though they did get a little nutso towards the end. I think the biggest hurdle will be getting your card pulled for your first job since you’ll literally be at the bottom of the barrel.
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;169218]Why would you send anything to a random email address? In this case it’s not difficult to see tugboatchief’s posts. If he’s running a scam this is a very inefficent way to collect info. To me it looks like he knows what he’s talking about. Also no need to put key info on a resume. For contact info it’s easy to get a phone number and a email address to use for a job hunt. No real need for a street address.[/QUOTE]
Ok - I guess you know who he is - will you divulge his name, company name, location, anything?
[QUOTE=NotReally;169236]Ok - I guess you know who he is - will you divulge his name, company name, location, anything?[/QUOTE]
Life sometimes is about judging and taking risks. If you feel that emailing your resume is not worth the risk don’t do it. It’s nothing to me either way.
Email him find out
I do not know his name, but if I did, I would not post it. If you do a search of gcaptain threads, you can find the company name. The company is based in NYC. Judging from the quality of his knowledgeable posts, and the universally positive comments from people who do know him, it sounds like a good place to work.
If he were looking for a captain, I would immediately send him my resume without any reservations.
As far as resumes go, I never list my current employer, or my actual home address, or date of birth, or ss number, or anything like that.
The thing that scares me, is all of these companies, especially in the Gulf that want you to fill out their application with all sorts of detailed personal information that they then give to these internet “background check” companies. There is no security for your information and I have no doubt that the background check companies sell it to just about anyone.
It’s too late, all your personal information is already in the wrong hands. There is no privacy left in the US.
Very glad to see I was wrong about unions and sea time limits. I was told that by two different old Navy guys that had friends in the MM.
I’m glad to see the positive posts about Tugboatchief. I was a little wary myself so I took my address out of my resume. If you do email him, you will get his name. I did some research and his name did come up affiliated with a certain Tug and some different maritime articles. Tugboatchief, I hope you dont mind me researching you like that.
Anyhow, I sent him a few questions about the job. Not having experience all I can offer is a will to learn and work long and hard. Its usually got me by in the past though.
Cheers,
Cody
shit that’s right! Well I was in the ballpark I guess lol
[QUOTE=farmerfalconer;169277]Very glad to see I was wrong about unions and sea time limits. I was told that by two different old Navy guys that had friends in the MM.
I’m glad to see the positive posts about Tugboatchief. I was a little wary myself so I took my address out of my resume. If you do email him, you will get his name. I did some research and his name did come up affiliated with a certain Tug and some different maritime articles. Tugboatchief, I hope you dont mind me researching you like that.
Anyhow, I sent him a few questions about the job. Not having experience all I can offer is a will to learn and work long and hard. Its usually got me by in the past though.
Cheers,
Cody[/QUOTE]
Cody: Don’t ask questions, just tell him you want the job and the opportunity to learn.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;169246]I do not know his name, but if I did, I would not post it. If you do a search of gcaptain threads, you can find the company name. The company is based in NYC. Judging from the quality of his knowledgeable posts, and the universally positive comments from people who do know him, it sounds like a good place to work.
If he were looking for a captain, I would immediately send him my resume without any reservations.
As far as resumes go, I never list my current employer, or my actual home address, or date of birth, or ss number, or anything like that.
The thing that scares me, is all of these companies, especially in the Gulf that want you to fill out their application with all sorts of detailed personal information that they then give to these internet “background check” companies. There is no security for your information and I have no doubt that the background check companies sell it to just about anyone.
It’s too late, all your personal information is already in the wrong hands. There is no privacy left in the US.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Kinda glad I am not in the job market these days. . . not to say that I won’t be at some time. . . I recall using my alumni job placement service where they sent out redacted CVs to various companies. I was still at Belcher (during my last two weeks) when the HR weasel came down to the boat in the shipyard. He then starts asking detailed questions about the particulars of certain vessels that I sailed on. . . ooh, guess what, he found out I was looking for another job. I guess he thought that I was really satisfied working for Belcher at $31K a year in 88. . . . I don’t usually complain about employment but I am very happy to pass on that working for Belcher was easily the my worst job and worst seagoing experience all around. . . .glad in only lasted 6 months and was my last seagoing employments. And, of course, they are no more.
This discussion reminds me a bit of the ECDIS / paper charts discussion with regards to how the electronics changes perceptions. Similarly job seekers now interact with the world through the internet. Us old-timers are thinking go down to boat and see if it is sinking or on fire and these new guys think in terms of interacting via their laptop.
When I was looking for a job when things were slow back in the mid-eighties I was burning up the shoe leather. I literally walked the waterfront almost every day runing into people talking to people etc. And it is very discouraging to be told to your face that they have no use for you. I had one guy at a tug company get angry at me for having the nerve to ask for a job when so many regular company guys were laid off.
Anyway, point being, don’t just sit behind your laptop, get out there, there a lot to be learned by snooping around but it’s not for the faint of heart.
I live in the Mountains, 6 hours from the coast, so face to face job searching is a bit hard with working three jobs here.
That said, I do have an Uncle in Miami, FL, and when I was 18 I tried “burning some shoe leather” while staying with him. The response I was CONSTANTLY met with was, “Go online and fill out an application…”.
I’m ready to drop everything here and head to where ever if a job opens up though. All I can offer is a strong back, and a will to work and learn. I have worked long days on Christmas tree farms and in construction before so I think that shows I can work hard. I have a student pilots license so I believe that demonstrates that I can think on my feet and remain calm in “tense” situations.
We will see how this goes and thanks all for the input.
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[QUOTE=tugsailor;169284]Cody: Don’t ask questions, just tell him you want the job and the opportunity to learn.[/QUOTE]
While I understand what you mean, I dont want to drive all the way to New York without getting ANY info ahead of time. My brother and I run a small company here and I would have to dissappoint many customers to leave on short notice. I am willing to do that (my brother agreed to pick up that slack) but not for an undescribed job.
During my sailing days before the Internet and the cell phone, I would catch wind of different jobs. There were a couple of other guys that I knew and we would share any news of openings that we had. It ended up being a nice little unofficial job placement service. . . . and got me a last minute job when I was suddenly and unexpectedly laid off. . . .
Subscribe to a couple of the trade magazines (workboat or professional mariner for example) and look in the employment section. Once you gather a few leads follow up on them in person. Dress like you want the job and have your bags packed in case they need you immediately. You wouldn’t believe the way some guys dress when they show up at the offices of these places and then bitch about being “boat trash”. It won’t kill you to wear a tie for a day to show you actually give a shit. Like it or not how you look and present yourself says a lot about you. It’s a tough job market right now so whatever you can do to stand out will help. I know Genesis Marine is looking for people on their inland side. I’m not sure if they are hiring for the offshore tugs. Check out Kirby too, they have inland and offshore fleets as well.
Yes please. I love paper work. The more. The merrier.
To all the individuals who sent your resumes. They are duly noted. And Just to give all of you a heads up. I’m prepping a boat now for sea trials next week. If all goes as planned we will be in the market for two equal time crews. 8 people. Captains. Mates. Chiefs and deckhands.
If you do not have any tugboat handling skills. Do not apply for a wheelhouse position. PLEASE. And thank you.
We are willing to train the right personnel.
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While I understand what you mean, I dont want to drive all the way to New York without getting ANY info ahead of time. My brother and I run a small company here and I would have to dissappoint many customers to leave on short notice. I am willing to do that (my brother agreed to pick up that slack) but not for an undescribed job.
Cody : Just send your resume and a cover letter saying that you want the job and why. Then just hope that you get a phone call! If you get a phone call, and that is a big IF, answer the empolyers questions, then you will get a chance to ask a few questions of your own. If you get an offer, or an offer to come for a personal interview, then you can ask questions.
This is the important point: employers are not going to send you their resumes for you to chose from.
And be careful not to show your ass on these boards or on social media. . . you wouldn’t believe who is watching. . . .
Fuck em!! Lol
[QUOTE=tugboatchief;169365]To all the individuals who sent your resumes. They are duly noted. And Just to give all of you a heads up. I’m prepping a boat now for sea trials next week. If all goes as planned we will be in the market for two equal time crews. 8 people. Captains. Mates. Chiefs and deckhands.
If you do not have any tugboat handling skills. Do not apply for a wheelhouse position. PLEASE. And thank you.
We are willing to train the right personnel.[/QUOTE]
If I were in the market, I’d be all over this. Who wants to work in a sterile environment when they could do some real boat handling without (I’m assuming) 18,000 pages of policy’s telling you otherwise. Take note youngsters, it’s where you should be going to get some real-man’s experience. If you can steer or deck there, you can steer or deck anywhere.