Hello all, first post here. A quick thanks to everyone, I’ve been lurking for about 9 months and it’s been great to be able to benefit from all the depth of experience of forum members.
I work on an unclassed DP vessel w/ an older but effective DP system. I’m happy where I am now, but I always like to work on my qualifications and certifications just in case. With that in mind I’m planning on taking the DP basic course.
Does having experience on “DP 0” have any value to companies hiring junior DP operators?
Maybe, but you won’t be able to get your DP certificate (or even take the advanced class) with time on class-0 boats. And there is a time frame before you have to retake the basic class…
I would only recommend taking it if you are planning to leave that company.
There is no DP-0 when it comes to this topic… IMO does not have such a class for DP equipment and the NI uses the definitions from IMO, not ABS or DNV or any other classification society for that matter… Just IMO!. Just because you are not on a ABS or DNV vessel does not mean you can’t get your DP cert.
DP-1/DP-2/DP-3 class equipment is not the same as DP-1/DP-2/DP-3 classed VESSEL. Classification society classes vessels and their equipment for money, albeit they have rules. IMO is the standard, minimum standard… In order for the DP cert, NI rules say Class equipment, not classed vessel… According to the IMO, there is no such thing as DP-0 equipment (that is a vessel without DP at all!)
Based on IMO (International Maritime Organization) publication 645** the Classification Societies have issued rules for Dynamic Positioned Ships described as Class 1, Class 2 and Class 3.
Equipment Class 1 has no redundancy.
Loss of position may occur in the event of a single fault.
Equipment Class 2 has redundancy so that no single fault in an active system will cause the system to fail.
Loss of position should not occur from a single fault of an active component or system such as generators, thruster, switchboards, remote controlled valves etc. But may occur after failure of a static component such as cables, pipes, manual valves etc.
Equipment Class 3 which also has to withstand fire or flood in any one compartment without the system failing.
Loss of position should not occur from any single failure including a completely burnt fire sub division or flooded watertight compartment.
Classification societies have their own notations DP Class Chart""
If your vessel is not in the N.I. database of D.P. classed vessels then the time doesn’t count. A vessel with classed machinery but not classed by ABS, DNV or someone will not be in the NI database.
you wont get seatime on a vessel with any DP system if the owner lets it fall out of DP Class
nor will you if that vessel is not on hire as a DP vessel, you would be unlucky that the NI checks that far but they have.
US Gov owned vessels not in class are treated as a special case.
I agree with the above posters. Do some research on your vessels history, type that IMO number in the NI website and see what is says! Write your seatime to match that. If its wrong in your favor, take it! If its wrong but not in your favor, prove it and good luck!
The only way to know for sure is to put your vessels IMO number in the NI’s database and see if it comes back. My vessel is not classed by anybody, but it is in the NI’s database as a DP vessel so I’m able to get my License. In fact I just printed everything off and am off to mail it to England right now.
[QUOTE=Jemplayer;113775]The only way to know for sure is to put your vessels IMO number in the NI’s database and see if it comes back. My vessel is not classed by anybody, but it is in the NI’s database as a DP vessel so I’m able to get my License. In fact I just printed everything off and am off to mail it to England right now.[/QUOTE]
If it has no class how can the NI know it has a DP system?
From what I can gather the manufacture seems to deal with NI and sends them the paper work as to what class the boat is in regards to DP 1, 2, 3. NI seems more interested in just the capabilities of the boat vs ABS who seems to me to be more concerned about the DP system from a safety point of view.
Now your in the waiting game like I am. I am at 10 and a half weeks since the NI sent me an e mail saying they received my packet and are 8 to 10 weeks behind. I am hoping to get news of some kind when I get off from this hitch. So has anyone recieved a DP cert in the last few months and if so what was your wait time?
I got caught in the change over from sending in the info to doing it on line back when they changed over. I was told that it would take 6 to 8 weeks. It was 13 months later that I got my unlimited. I hope their 6 to 8 has changed. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Jemplayer;114121]From what I can gather the manufacture seems to deal with NI and sends them the paper work as to what class the boat is in regards to DP 1, 2, 3. NI seems more interested in just the capabilities of the boat vs ABS who seems to me to be more concerned about the DP system from a safety point of view.[/QUOTE]
no thats not happening I can asssure you of that