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I guess you didn’t read the he wiki. Putin has a long way to go before he’s killed as many civilians in Ukraine as we have in Iraq, let alone Libya, Syria, Somalia, Niger, Mali, etc, etc…
BTW you are giving the US a pass.
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On Putin, do we include his own people who dissapear, or jounalists, political opposion, critics or people who are otherwise inconvenient ?
Maybe Xi would get a look in, especially if you include Tibetans and Urghurs and Falung Gong. (Do we include Caronavirus ?)
Dont get me started on those Egyptians, Romans, Moors and Mongols !
The governments love it as voters will vote for them when they photos of blowing up the “enemy”
If someone tries the blow the whistle they will bury them.
Check out this guy, crooked OZ gov trying every trick in the book to not let the public know they have broken the law.
The gov is trying to hold trial in secret so the public dont find out they have committed criminal offences
Canada has done a similar thing to an Navy Admiral
Governments love war, it creates inflation and allows them to print more money as GOV debt repayments are reduced as a percentage of daily outgoings.
You can see why they love war
I mean every single conflict that arose since the creation of the UN in every continent. So do you think it acceptable if the Russians use defoliant to destroy Ukrainian food supplies? According to UN rule, the US and UK were allowed to use defoliant to destroy insurgency in Vietnam. And the US and UK didn’t share borders with Vietnam. What were they doing there? Why was the UN ok with that?
And about usurpation of lands and arbitrary creation of borders in Africa, Middle East and Asia? When the Bosnia-Herzegovina war in the 90’s was raging (and still is quietly in the hearts and minds of people), there was nary a peep from international markets. Yet, if you see the map, where it’s located, and the more recent news of Russia cutting supply of energy to the region, nothing came of it.
To the UN, some are children and some are stepchildren.
Have we had a war in the last 100 years that wasnt ideology based?
As the Commies cant be seen to fail they have goaded countries to take the battle to western ideologies.
Did China cause the Korean war, the Vietnam war etc etc
Did they enlarge and lengthen the wars so more suffered, yes
After the partition of the Korean Peninsula in 1945, the Soviet Union was instrumental in purging its zone of political dissidents and supporting the ruling communist party. The U.S.S.R. backed communist leader Kim Il-Sung’s 1950 invasion of South Korea. When the invasion was beaten back, China sent a formidable expeditionary force into Korea, first to drive the United Nations Command out of the north and then to unify the peninsula under communist control.
Wars aren’t based on ideology. Ideology is a ruse. Wars are based on money. If Ukraine was a desert with no resources Russia would never invaded. If there was no money to be made by arms suppliers via tax dollars Ukaraine would never have been defended.
Most rich nations are not countries, they are businesses. Business has zero ideology.
In Korea the Chinese went in when American forces got to the Yalu River, which was the border between China and Korea (Now DPRK) They beat the Americans back to the agreed demarcation line of 1945. That is still the situation. No peace treaty has been signed yet.
In Vietnam the Chinese did what the West is doing in Ukraine today, they supplied weapons and moral support, but did not get actively involved in the fighting. This was to avoid giving any excuse to escalate the war, just like now.
History repeated, but on opposite tack??
Delusions of a dictator ( with a nuclear button) to make russia great again
The whole world disagrees hence the whole world is helping support the independent Ukraine
Had the internet been around some of those old wars would have had different support.
Dont forget the commies specialise in killing their own for ideological reasons just as much as trying to push that idelogy to other countries.
They eventually fail as populations want self determination hence the state of control in those countries today, they will just kill a few more to ensure they stay in power.
The baltic states are pretty good examples of what the population wants.
It is generally understood that when we refer to the war in Vietnam we are referring to the period from the French withdrawal in 1954 to 1975.
The British had a look in 1850’s but there was a civil war underway at the time.
Ho was promised support from Europe and the US before the end of WWII in order to form a united Vietnam due to his objection to Japanese occupation. They wanted to be free of the Japanese and French (who were supported in large part by the Michelin group due to rubber resources). When the promises weren’t kept Ho turned to other countries.
