It is a national embarrassment. It is why we need a “denazification” program.
I agree 100% with the bolded. I disagree with dumping the electoral college, our brilliant founding fathers made it that way so the majority could not trample the rights of the minority or the individual.
I also believe in barriers to voting, such as the ones in the meme I posted.
Voter ID is Nazi? Israel will be distressed to learn this. Call Bibi up.
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When you say “denazification” what you really mean is put everyone who doesn’t agree with you in re-education camps, correct?
And to edit: you do understand that Nazis were socialists as well don’t you? They were not “right wing” by any means.
You should watch this very informative YouTube video.
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Millions of voters in two states - NY and California. The others (Ohio, Texas, Florida) are a bit fluid, but let’s just focus on NY and Cali. Given the…state…of those two states and the leaders THOSE voters put in office, do you really trust them them make a smart decision for the other 48 states? For you??
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The case for denazification:
Let them. Hordes of those people are moving to Texas and turning Republican. It will backfire just like judicial confirmation did.
I don’t buy that line of thinking…See Denver.
15 years ago, Denver was amazing. Clean. Very little homeless. Californians fled to Denver, distraught at what California had become. What happened? When they arrived, they began voting FOR the same policies that led to California becoming California. I was in Denver a month ago. Human feces everywhere. Homeless encampments.
It’s now San Francisco.
Same thing is happening to Austin.
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Some of you guys should really consider community college for history and civics instruction.
As regards the villianized states of CA and NY, it’s important to point out that they don’t vote as a block. They are scored that way because of the electoral college. There are plenty of Trumpists in Upstate NY and Northern California.
If you insist on defending the electoral college in modern times, you should at least understand how it came into being and how it relates to the Three-fifths Compromise.
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You can go through life with a community college-tier understanding of history and civics, where you simply repeat what you were told, or you can read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers and decide for yourself.
I’m not surprised you’ve chosen the former.
Facts and history just confuse those folks more than they already are.
Those 250+ voter suppression bills recently promoted don’t exist because the Trumpists want free and fair elections. Those people tremble with a morbid fear of “other” voices.
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Ummmm…no. Every vote would count equally as opposed to the current situation where a shitkicker from Wyoming has 3.6 times the voting power of a California voter.
ND, SD, WY, and MT would still have a combined 8 Senators despite the fact that their total population is maybe about 11 guys.
I chose it for you. You could really benefit from some education.
I’m not the one regurgitating the common trope that the Electoral College came into being because of the Three-Fifths Compromise.
You repeat what you’re told.
You hear what you choose to hear. You attribute things that you wish to be true. Are you claiming that the Three-fifths Compromise was not a factor in the adoption of the electoral college? What were the circumstances?
By all means sir. Please enlighten us all as to how it really happened. Do we need a Q-Anon codebook and a decoder ring?
If you took the time to read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers you would know that associating the Three-Fifths Compromise with the Electoral College is just another attempt to associate anything the Democrats don’t like with slavery and racism.
Which Federalist paper contains that particular gem?
I hadn’t previously heard of your ‘three fifths compromise’ so looked it up. It seems to relate only to the numbers of representatives in the house, not the senate by including slaves in the population each counted at three fifths of non-slaves. This gave more political power to the slave owning southern states and thus more power for presidential elections. It was rendered obsolete by the enactment of the 13th amendment in 1865.
That would seem to me to be time enough to change any electoral college misgivings since then so it must be that the electoral college is mutually agreed by the parties up until now. Biden got elected but the Dems still aren’t happy and why is that?
Because they sense they can get away with it and cement a permanent advantage knowing their current demographics in the big states and their importation of immigrants which they want to enfranchise swiftly or simply remove obstacles that currently require verification of identity and citizenship. I don’t see anything good coming of this.
Interestingly, there’s an Australian similarity (thanks for drawing my attention) in which our constitution did not allow population census to include Aborigines in states which didn’t allow them the vote. The effect was that at federation, a couple of states had lower numbers of representatives and less influence because they didn’t let Aborigines vote and thus were given a strong incentive to change their laws to include them. In other words, the desirable effect of universal franchise was achieved fairly quickly.
Australia’s constitution was derived by observing the (painful) experience of the USA (with its wars of independence and civil war), adding that to the British constitutional monarchy, and chucking in a bit of Swiss experience of referendums. I think we ended up with a better system. Just sayin’.
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You still don’t know anything.