Yes UK and Ireland are exempt simply because they have Trump hotels, there can be no other reason. 
Orange man bad.
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From the Stars and Stripes article:
The order essentially bans travel to, through or from China, Italy, Iran and South Korea — all of which are under a Travel Health Notice Level 3 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, according to Esper’s memo. A CDC level 3 advisory means a widespread community transmission of the disease is occurring.
Official travel to countries under a level 2 CDC travel advisory — which includes Japan, Singapore, the United Kingdom and Bahrain — are deferred for anything other than essential missions. Level 2 means a sustained community spread of the disease is underway
However, official travel by family members of uniformed and DOD civilian employees to level 2 countries is barred for 60 days starting Friday. DOD hiring for civilian positions in level 2 and level 3 countries is also on hold for that period, according to Esper’s order.
We have community spread in the US and have for some time, a competent public health apparatus would’ve detected this earlier and made a stronger case for at least more aggressive social distancing. As it is, public schools are still open almost everywhere and we are certainly dealing with more cases than we realize. This isn’t political, we’ve seen other countries respond both well and poorly to this in real time and we are not doing what works.
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Above all though, don’t offend or inconvenience anyone.
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Trump at the Trump Turnberry resort in Scotland 2016.
Trump’s travel ban conveniently sidesteps his own European resorts, smart move. Blindsiding Europe with this ban and not consulting with their leaders was some tit for tat about something that happened in the past. It is obvious that he treats his Saudi and North Korean friends with more respect. His behaviour against Europe is getting worse in time it seems. I remember for instance that he wanted to buy Greenland from Denmark but when they politely declined he cancelled the visit of the Danish PM to Washington. The Danish would loose 90% of their territory so it is not a big surprise that they declined.
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OK, what other reason is there? The UK has more reported cases than several EU countries.
Neither Ireland or UK are in the Schengen visa zone and control their own individual boarders, externally and internally. As such, they can unilaterally agree to DHS criteria for continued travel. Individual EU countries cannot make such decisions within their own zones by charter, unless they all agree. Good luck with that one any time soon.
I was talking with my old man this morning. He works for Lockheed in Germany. His travel to UK was cancelled. I just hope my July visit happens
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Well if my constant defense of Jones Act doesn’t ring a bell, or posts on El Faro and multiple other maritime topics don’t do it for you—maybe this will earn my free speech badge for you:
Feel free to avoid responding tho.
That’s funny. But, since some decided to turn this into a political thread, is should be noted that Sand_Pebble has a very good & positive defense in “I don’t ever recall”. In this context, proof to the contrary doesn’t mean much.
According to the WP individual EU countries can use border controls in exceptional circumstances and in fact some are already doing so.
The rapidly growing number of cases in Italy has led other Schengen members to talk about introducing new travel restrictions to prevent the spread of infection. Austria has said that people can only enter from Italy (which borders Austria) if they have a health certificate showing they are free from the coronavirus that is less than four days old. Slovenia and Hungary are introducing strong restrictions too. Such restrictions are probably legal under Schengen, which allows for the temporary reintroduction of border controls under exceptional circumstances.
They can, but not under the authority of the United States.
Why should the European mainstream care about a travel ban?
The majority loved your Presidents Carter and even canonized Obama, and detested all others, even Bush One who finalized the fall of the Soviet Union and permitted the German Reunification (François Mitterrand and Margaret Thatcher were against!).
Kudos to Jamesbrown, he had to go back half a decade to July of 2015 to find a topic where we discussed something to do with the maritime field. I honestly don’t recall that 1 comment from the middle of the last decade. My bad.
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I don’t care about the travel ban, but is this the final straw thats going to kill the world economy?
Nah, but it is the black swan event that will bring the end to irrational values. If there are no bailouts of the gamblers and overextended companies maybe everyone will be better off in the long run. Let the cream rise and the crap fall. In a few years the economy and the people will be better for it. But the Italian bank crash that is looking more likely may cause hasty unwise decisions that could further affect the world economy. Things will get interesting soon.
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I chose it intentionally, but since you don’t recall, it was a time when you could be civil and we had a President who could go on TV and reliably not shut down all travel and trade with Europe. Lucky for us that Trump took that extra hour to prepare last night, who knows what might have happened.
Interesting to note that somebody down the road from me in the UK has just had to go into self quarantine having come back from the USA where he worked alongside somebody who now has the virus.
You’re better off keeping him for his own sake. We don’t even have enough test kits for people presenting with symptoms.
If you ask me, I think the negative impact on world economies can be a good thing. It may open eyes when the root cause of this pandemic is really investigated.
Here’s why: For economic reason’s, there has been little effort to confront China on a range of issues for fear economic retribution. China’s influence has increased at a rapid pace in many countries, and China will be the largest economy with the most influence in the future. The biggest problem with this scenario is the communist aspect and the government’s control over the means of production. Meaning, China’s government can wield a remarkable amount of influence (outside of their boarders) and will manipulate behavior to their liking, - ie. socioeconomics. This is actually their long term business model and vision.
Now think about that in the context of what has happened. A doctor discovered a virus and tried to warn the population through social media, and the communist government arrested him for it. Really? Unfortunately, that doctor died from the coronavirus himself. But, does that track well with future prevention? It seems like all of these bugs are originating from the same area, and each iteration becomes more serious. Something needs to change at the source.
Now, back to the point. Economies will return and this will be behind all of us at some point, but what most countries feared in terms of economic impact from China just happened anyway. This means your fear is over for the time being. I say don’t waste a good crisis. Countries should demand assurances from China in terms self-expression and free speech by its people, particularly around health issues and warnings. At least give people a chance to defend themselves, and not let centralized authority expose us all. Hopefully, this is a wake-up call.
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Speaking of China …
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