MITAGS-PMI recently published this helpful guide to the Manila Amendments. (.pdf) Lots of good stuff, well organized by license/rating, and with citations for anyone seeking info. Links to all applicable NVICs there too
http://mitags-pmi.org/newsletter/Pdfs/Guide_to_STCW_Manila_Amendments-USCG_Final_Rules.pdf
[QUOTE=wafinator;139997]MITAGS-PMI recently published this helpful guide to the Manila Amendments. (.pdf) Lots of good stuff, well organized by license/rating, and with citations for anyone seeking info. Links to all applicable NVICs there too
http://mitags-pmi.org/newsletter/Pdfs/Guide_to_STCW_Manila_Amendments-USCG_Final_Rules.pdf[/QUOTE]
Generally accurate, but one notable inaccuracy. It suggests that the requirement for OICNWs and OICEWs to meet requirements for Leadership and Teamwork Skills by January 1, 2017 have to be done in a course. They don’t. See the discussion of this here:
http://www.gcaptain.com/forum/maritime-training-licensing/14759-mate-1600-grt-oicnw-3000-gt-question-difference.html#post138340
I am pleased to hear that I may not have to take that course.
As I am sailing as master (1600 grt), how should I do the assessments? Sign myself off? Have the mate sign me off?
[QUOTE=tugsailor;140081]I am pleased to hear that I may not have to take that course.
As I am sailing as master (1600 grt), how should I do the assessments? Sign myself off? Have the mate sign me off?[/QUOTE]
Chief Mates, Masters, Chief Engineers, and Second Engineer Officers (1st AE) have a different requirement, theirs is “Leadership and Managerial Skills” and that has to be done in a course.
which is absolutely ridiculous
[QUOTE=brjones;140146]which is absolutely ridiculous[/QUOTE]
welcome to the modern world of maritime licensing thanks to the greater glory of the all powerful IMO…a bigger “racket” would be very hard to find!
honestly, why does someone need to comply with all the STCW nonsense if they are just going to sail in domestic Jones Act service? A coastwise ship; does not need SOLAS certificates so why should a coastwise seaman need to carry an STCW '95 one? (btw are they going to be now called STCW '10?)
thank God all my training and licensing happened long before any of this BS went into effect in 2002. I pity all the poor sods to have to comply with all the inane bullshit now!
[QUOTE=c.captain;140155]welcome to the modern world of maritime licensing thanks to the greater glory of the all powerful IMO…a bigger “racket” would be very hard to find!
honestly, why does someone need to comply with all the STCW nonsense if they are just going to sail in domestic Jones Act service? A coastwise ship; does not need SOLAS certificates so why should a coastwise seaman need to carry an STCW '95 one? (btw are they going to be now called STCW '10?)
thank God all my training and licensing happened long before any of this BS went into effect in 2002. I pity all the poor sods to have to comply with all the inane bullshit now![/QUOTE]
I am only complying with all of this because I am putting myself out there for hire in any capacity; if I were satisfied with my status quo I’d not have spent thousands of bucks of my own money to upgrade since my employer seems to be immune to the ramifications of same (even though we do send ships overseas). I guess it’s good to be gubmint when it comes down to it. The one plus is tax deductability. But holy cow; when do I actually get to make any money? Ay yi yi.
[QUOTE=brjones;140146]which is absolutely ridiculous[/QUOTE]
Have you heard about Engineroom Resource Management?
If not, hang on to your tighty whities.
Man, I thought that this was about something completely different. . . . .
[QUOTE=cmakin;140252]Man, I thought that this was about something completely different. . . . .[/QUOTE]
you must be having wonderful Olongapo flashbacks my friend…
you want fuckee, fuckee, suckee, suckee…I love you long time sailorman…buy me drink?
[QUOTE=c.captain;140256]you must be having wonderful Olongapo flashbacks my friend…
you want fuckee, fuckee, suckee, suckee…I love you long time sailorman…buy me drink?[/QUOTE]
Hehehe; well, I only went up the street in Olongapo once; but have been to a few other places, including one stay in Manila that lasted over two weeks when States Lines went bust. . .
[QUOTE=cmakin;140271]including one stay in Manila that lasted over two weeks when States Lines went bust. . .[/QUOTE]
you lucky SOB! That would be one for the life record book even if you didn’t get all your wages in the end. Probably spent all your wages during those two weeks, but what a glorious time it was!
[QUOTE=c.captain;140302]you lucky SOB! That would be one for the life record book even if you didn’t get all your wages in the end. Probably spent all your wages during those two weeks, but what a glorious time it was![/QUOTE]
I once had to endure being put up in the Hotel da Bahia in Brazil back in '75 for 2 days, but then lost in the crew change and spent 2 weeks there. I was then sent up the coast to Aracaju where the boat was moored to the City Dock in the middle of the Federal University of Sergipe. The horror…
[QUOTE=c.captain;140302]you lucky SOB! That would be one for the life record book even if you didn’t get all your wages in the end. Probably spent all your wages during those two weeks, but what a glorious time it was![/QUOTE]
I was a cadet so they managed to pay my meager “salary”. I had also been there quite a few times before on both that ship and others; two being break bulkers. We were there initially for a two day stay, and when the Third and I came back from a quick beer at the Old Shamrock, we saw a whole bunch of folks in the Officer’s Lounge. Seems that States never paid the agency in Singapore for some boiler repairs on the WYOMING a few months before. That agency had a branch in Manila (although was not our agent) and put a lean on the ship that got us arrested. We shifted off of the dock and moved to the anchorage. This was all around Christmas times and allotment checks home were bouncing (oops). We also had daily launch service, one in the morning and one in the evening. Even if you missed one, I think that a launch out only cost a buck or two (if I could afford it, it couldn’t have been much). If you ever get to Houston, we can discuss over a beer or two. . . . .
[QUOTE=injunear;140305]I once had to endure being put up in the Hotel da Bahia in Brazil back in '75 for 2 days, but then lost in the crew change and spent 2 weeks there. I was then sent up the coast to Aracaju where the boat was moored to the City Dock in the middle of the Federal University of Sergipe. The horror…[/QUOTE]
A few years back, I was stuck in Ciudad Ojeada, Venezuela trying to get a salvage job done on a capsized barge in Lake Maracaibo. Nothing but delays (largely due to Chavez and his political machinations). Yeah. “How was your day”, "Oh, not bad. It was a bit hot out at the pool today, though . . "