Google translation of the Norwegian text in your post:
Further from the article:
PS> In Norway>80% of new cars sold are now EVs. From 2025 it will be 100% by present projection.
I do and I read your post about a fire in a parking house.
I just wanted to elaborate with more details on the event.
No I don’t think any vehicle are inherently safe, but I just point out that EVs are not inherently unsafe, as appears to be the opinion of most people.
We agree that if EV batteries catch fire for whatever reason they are difficult to extinguish.
Thus EVs are a danger in situations like when carried on a ferry, PCTC, or when parked in a parkinghouse. if a fire break out for whatever reason.
The Havila Kystruten ships are not conventional Ro/Ro ferries, but do carry a few cars on the Coastal Express sevice Bergen - Kirkenes v.v. Cars are carried on the cargo deck, together with other cargo:
The decision to ban EV, Hybrids and Hydrogen powered vehicles is base on a risk assessment carried out by a 3rd party:
I.e. the reason is the difficulty in extinguishing an EV fire, not that the are more likely to catch fire than ICEs.
PS> The Havila Kystruten ships has a large battery bank onboard:
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I understand that the german fire service responds to an EV fire with a truck fitted with a palfinger crane equiped with a claw and a large tank of water on the back. The car is picked up bodily and submerged in the tank. I don’t know what you do with an EV fire with a truck.
We know have electric buses. I don’t use buses but if I did I would pay attention to where the emergency exits were.
We live next to the local bus depot, where abt 60 buses are parked at night, cleaned and maintained. View from our flat:
13 of these are presently EVs (10 Volvo City buses + 3 Yutong Coach buses)
We use bus to get to the town center, or to the shopping malls out of town, mostly by the Electric City buses:
Are we living dangerously?:
Probably more dangerous to drive a car, no matter which type. (Especially on icy roads)
All you ever want to know about EV Fires:
Back to EV fires on ships and ferries:
Has there ever been any consideration in ro-ro design for the design of magazines on ammo ships? Segregate EVs (or ICEs for that matter) in sealable compartments with high capacity full flood deluge systems. You’d lose some cargo capacity and increase build cost, but this isn’t the first time we’ve put highly volatile high potential-energy cargo on ships.
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There’s your answer 
Things probably won’t change much til class puts their foot down and even then it will take a while to move through all of the ships that will be grandfathered. Look how long it took for double hull tankers to be phased in
New Seismic vessels have full flood magazines to store Lithium batteries, one for used and one for new batteries.
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The problem as I see it that it is not that EV’s are more likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. They may be statistically far less likely to catch fire than conventional vehicles. A subsidiary of GM in Australia manufactured a Holden in the 1960’s with a petrol tank with a defect that could turn the car into a bomb.
The problem is the intensity of the fire, the difficulty in controlling it and the lethal voltages present.
Yes that is a proven fact and a lot of work are being done to try to find a safe way to deal with fires involving EVs, or L-I battery fires in general.
Or maybe one of the many attempts at developing a safer and better type of batteries will succeed soon?
More likely the Insurance companies and P&I Clubs put their foot down, or at least issues new clauses in their policies.
Maybe the many fires on PCTCs lately has something to do with this?:
Not only are there more cars aboard than previously reported, revised to up to 3,783 from the previous figure of 2,857, but Fremantle Highway’s electric vehicle (EV) contingent of 498 is far higher than the 25 initially reported.
The first figures were reported by Dutch Coastguard MAY have been based on mainfest when she left Dutch port. (??)
Could the additional 900 vehicles have been loaded in Bremerhaven?
The interesting part is that all vehicles on board was brand new, which eliminate the soruce as being a second hand car, whether EV or ICE.
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Electric bike and scooter batteries are also a danger. There have been many fires in UK from batteries exploding.
The growth in EVs is adding a lot of new risks.
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i just wonder if the EC’s are incapable of dealing with the “salt air”.
London fire brigade gets called out to an e-bike or e-scooter fire every two days.
EV fires are only going to get more and more common.
It seems that it isn’t just EV’s are dangerous when damaged. All Lithium iron batteries can present a problem . Tools and lawnmowers in a garage attached to a house, laptop batteries and electric bikes in apartment and EV’s in basement garages are all under scrutiny by risk managers in insurance.
Ya’ll think the fire is hot enough that any water put on it TURNS TO HYDROGREN and makes even MOAR FIR3ZZ?
According to this website, it could happen.
Know the threats before you attack an electric vehicle fire.
Electric vehicle fires can be thousands of degrees hot. Applying water or foam may cause a violent flare-up as the water molecules separate into explosive hydrogen and oxygen gas