New OICNW Policy Letter

What does it take (classes, assesements, exams, etc.) for somebody with an Unlimted Master Inland and a 200 Ton NC to get a 2/M Oceans ticket?

I don’t have these licenses, I am asking for an AB I am currently working with.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Navy SWO;52863]What does it take (classes, assesements, exams, etc.) for somebody with an Unlimted Master Inland and a 200 Ton NC to get a 2/M Oceans ticket?

I don’t have these licenses, I am asking for an AB I am currently working with.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Apply for it and test. If you already have OICNW you won’t have to do anything but the exam. I did, was approved, but I was too damned lazy to take the test and my approval ran out. That was a couple of years ago and I don’t think anything has changed. If you don’t have a tonnage restriction on your Inland license you won’t on your 2/M.

[QUOTE=Navy SWO;52863]What does it take (classes, assesements, exams, etc.) for somebody with an Unlimted Master Inland and a 200 Ton NC to get a 2/M Oceans ticket?[/QUOTE]

I thought about going this route to 2M but can’t think of a reasonable way to get an Unlimited Master Inland without working as a pilot or going to Great Lakes ships [which would be a pay cut].

[QUOTE=dougpine;52866]Apply for it and test. If you already have OICNW you won’t have to do anything but the exam. I did, was approved, but I was too damned lazy to take the test and my approval ran out. That was a couple of years ago and I don’t think anything has changed. If you don’t have a tonnage restriction on your Inland license you won’t on your 2/M.[/QUOTE]

What about Celestial? Does an Inland Unlimited Master already have Celestial?

[QUOTE=Navy SWO;52888]What about Celestial? Does an Inland Unlimited Master already have Celestial?[/QUOTE]

You would be a Master upon Oceans with celestial.

Celestial would be part if the exam. Inland guys don’t do celestial.

[QUOTE=anchorman;52890]You would be a Master upon Oceans with celestial.[/QUOTE]

No they dont.

I love this thread.

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How does this policy letter affect an A/B with a 100/200 gt master/mate? Assessments, BRM, AFF, GMDSS, ARPA, MCP, Radar, and flashing light all need to test? A captain I work with says the 200 gt plotting is the same as the 1600. Is that true?

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[QUOTE=Jeffery_P_Oliver;55528]How does this policy letter affect an A/B with a 100/200 gt master/mate?[/QUOTE]

Can’t answer that one without knowing the context. What are you applying for?

I want to apply for the mate 1600 or at least the mate 500. Half my seatime is on a 174 ton vessel and the other half is on a 474 ton vessel all as an AB.

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[QUOTE=Jeffery_P_Oliver;55531]I want to apply for the mate 1600 or at least the mate 500. Half my seatime is on a 174 ton vessel and the other half is on a 474 ton vessel all as an AB.

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How it affects you is already reflected in the checklist for 500 and/or 1600. It removes the requirement to take most of the classes. If you have 1080 days of seatime over 200 GRT then you can get the Third Mate - Limited.

http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/checklists.asp

Scroll down to the license you want and it will give you a pdf checklist of all the requirements.

Good Luck.

Thank you very much. I have the checklist and just wanted to verify what I suspected.

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Best hurry. I don’t think this will stand for long.

Please forgive me if I’ve misunderstood this post, but why does everyone seem to look down on someone whos spent 20 years at sea on a boat and working everyday, seem to think that a few years spent in a classroom studying theory makes a better mariner? I remember passing my 1600 at the REC and wondering why if I could past a terrestrial exam at the REC, did I need a certificate from a 3 week class to upgrade to 3rd mate. Some things are better taught at the wheel than on a black board. I couldn’t believe they actually required a certificate for ship handling!!! like that can be taught in a classroom.
Things are bad enough out there. We should all band together and help each other. After all, we all have our eye on the same prize

If you wasted four years getting the same license as some deck or grease monkey without a high school diploma wouldn’t you talk yourself up, too?

If I knew then what I know now, I would have went to an an academy as soon as I graduated high school. I am not ashamed of my 6 years of hawsepiping it either. I worked for several different captains and learned a lot from each, I’m sure some of it not taught in academies. I would like to congratulate any and every seaman that has worked hard at earning his or her license. Mine means a lot to me. I only hope to upgrade as is I am qualified. I hope everyone has a safe and pleasant voyage.

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If I am going for a 1600 ton mate near coastal do I need to have the celestial assesments completed? How about arpa? Thanks in advance. Furthermore does anyone know exactly how rfpnw time must be logged? Is a sea time style letter titled rfpnw training stating range of days hours per day and stating it is specifically rfpnw.training sufficient?

[QUOTE=tantom40;61442]If I am going for a 1600 ton mate near coastal do I need to have the celestial assesments completed? How about arpa? Thanks in advance. Furthermore does anyone know exactly how rfpnw time must be logged? Is a sea time style letter titled rfpnw training stating range of days hours per day and stating it is specifically rfpnw.training sufficient?[/QUOTE]

I recently just finished the process for 1600 mate N/C when I did all my assesments I just got them all signed off except for the celestial. I didnt want problems from the REC so I just got them all signed off. As far as RFPNW I went to a one day class and got lookout duties only put on my MMC and they gave me all the assesments to get filled out by my captain. If I remember right a day must be 8 hours of navigational watch.

Thanks for the reply and info. My vessel doesn’t have arpa so I guess ill have to take the class. It had to happen eventually.