Here we go with more insults…. And no I don’t work ROS. I highly doubt you’ve tramped around to more parts of the world than I have.
Here’s my insult- your probably a MMP mate that works on a containership that goes to the same ports every trip and can’t navigate elsewhere. Maybe even one of the containerships that has it in their contract that they need to take a pilot for certain European waters. Lol
Exactly not contributing anything productive to the discussion. Come on big shot post your wage scale you’re not doing it for me - your doing it for all those who can’t or don’t go in the hall and ask for a print out of the current wage scale.
I should’ve taken a picture but I forgot, these are all within $50 give or take.
AMO Containership
Master - $1200
CM - $985
2M - $785
3M - $670
That’s all in, vacation factored in, no OT, just 12 hour days every day. Holidays are an extra days pay. Engineer positions are the same except Chief which falls somewhere between CM and Master. Quality of life is really good there as well, good food, good wifi, good accommodations.
You get longevity after 2015, but it’s small and it starts at year three. For example if you’re they’re 5 years, at year 3 you get 1 dollar/day. Year 5, 3 dollars/day and so on.
From what I’ve gathered elsewhere, pay isn’t the highest but is competitive (in terms of Crowley, OSG, Vane)
Haven’t talked to my friends at vane in a long while, but i suspect they are still well behind the curve on pay. I’m sure their wages have come up over the last few years as they were hurting for people like everyone else but they will always be one of the lowest paying companies out there…just how it is i guess.
The Tankermen are overpaid on a relative basis, as is very often the case. However, almost $700 a day to pump a 300,000 bbl multiproduct barge seems fair.
$1 a day “longevity bonus” after 3 years is an insult. It’s about like screaming f…k you for being stupid enough to work for me for so long. I cannot imagine why a company would do something this counterproductive.
The TSP ships are some of the highest paying tanker contracts in AMO (pay scale mention above) super laid back, and international tramp run. Normal 60-90 day rotations. Lots of shore time in cool ports.
They only run 3 mates, so the junior mates are 6/6 during cargo. If you have no experience than the Chief Mate has to stand watch with you and they won’t be happy about that.
Haha well then who is gonna go work there as a 3rd with a ton of tanker experience? These types of issues always seem like a company problem for not setting up a better work environment/training scheme.
The companies are the ones going out and bidding on the contracts not the unions. But that being said a private company would be hard pressed to find enough qualified US unlimited officers to crew the ships nowadays. Unless they could convince people with substantially higher wages or really short hitches like the gulf.
3m are the least of the problem, you can live with an inexperinced 3m but not an inexperinced 1ae.
Because the Chief Mate gets called at all hours of the night during cargo. Plus they are there for the pre, start up, and finish of cargo. Add in 8 hours of watch standing might as well have the Chief Mate just stay up the entire time lol. There’s a good reason for Jones act tankers to carrying 2 third mates so the C/M stays on day work.
These TSP tankers that sail foreign and carry 1 third mate the C/M will need to stand at sea watches. But still best for the operation they do not stand a cargo watch. Also during tank washing they’ll leave the junior mates on 6/6 on the bridge too.
Mates, Engineers, Captains all keep their dayrates quiet here, some people sell their souls alot cheaper than others. Licensed engineers and mates are 600ish+, all depends what you bring to the table. OS deckhands are 275ish, ABs are 385, recently got travel money at 20 for OS, 35 for ABs, licensed is 50 per day worked.
