Looking for some advice


#1

I am beginning a search for some different size ships to buy. While I am at best a novice mariner I have a pretty good idea what I’m searching for. Without knowing all sizes of ships these will be varying sizes. Without going into great details right now right now. I can say all of these ships will be used for non-military research and service operations.

Two main of the vessels should be anywhere between 150’ to 200’ in length. Three additional vessels should be approximately 100’ to 150’ in length. Again not knowing, two of vessels should be able to open at the stern. All vessels must have had prior U.S. Coast Guard approval and seaworthy as well as only needing minimal repairs or upgrades.

I know the U.S. Navy has ships which have been mothballed, but I not sure a lot of things about those ships. If there is anyone who can help me and point me the right direction it would greatly appreciate. That’s about all I can offer at this point in time. I can say that there will a number of positions for experienced personnel available, but that it a ways off.


#3

I’m sure you’re right, but for the size of the operation, I working on I’m going to need bigger ships.


#4

There should be plenty of cold stacked vessels in the Gulf that can meet your requirements.


#5

Entering “ships for sale” in Google returned 463 million hits in 0.52 seconds. Here is one of the first:

https://horizonship.com/

I’m sure others will offer other more pointed advice.


#6

I’ll check it out, but I was trying to locate vessels on the west coast if possible. I’m from San Diego and a great deal of the work will be in the Pacific and beyond. By the way. What does the term “cold stacked vessels” mean?

Thanks


#7

Someone may find an argument with this statement, but most workboats and vessels like you are inquiring about were built and/or originated from shipyards in the gulf/east coast. The handful that made it to the west coast are working, but the majority of the market was not on the west coast so there is slim pickings here…but then again every boat is for sale even when it isn’t right?

Cold-stacked is a vessel tied up with no one and nothing on it, dark ship and locked up. Like others have mentioned, you’d have better luck loooking in the gulf because the last crash tied up a lot of equipment of all ages and sizes.


#8

If you have enough money to finance a startup like this I suggest you write the first check to an experienced ship manager.

Do you plan a Jones Act operation? Fisheries?


#9

Find a good broker who know the market and can advise on all necessary procedures for sale and purchase of vessels.


#10

I think there is a shipload of work to be done before calling a broker.

But to tell the truth, this venture sounds like it is a perfect fit for Max Hardberger :roll_eyes:


#11

Thanks for clearing that all up for me. Like I stated before I’m not much of a mariner and a lot I don’t understand yet, but I’m a quick study.

So I should be looking down on the Gulf Coast for vessels. So I’ll need to ask a few people I know down in south Louisiana to see if they might be able to get me some more info. Thanks ever so much.


#12

There is exactly one of those vessels in the mothball fleet in Beaumont, TX, but its 328 feet long. It was used for many years as a oceanographic research vessel by MSC, but I’d be surprised if they were willing to sell it to a civilian.


#13

You lost sizes that are those of small supply boats then say you’re going to need bigger vessels than supply boats?


#14

Size isn’t as important as much as what you want the vessel to do. There are a lot of different uses for a shop and one that is designed for your planned use will be far better for your plan.


#15

I don’t think he has any idea what he’s talking about, which is part of the problem. The other part is necessitating that the vessels already be on the west coast. If that canal transit is an issue, this venture might sink before even untying from the dock.


#16

Not sure why it says my post was deleted but I suggested mini supply vessels, which are 150-200 ft which is exactly what you asked for. I honestly can’t tell if this is some kind of troll post, but if it isn’t then you seriously need to hire a vessel manager of some sort before you even attempt this idea.


#17

As I was taught many years ago. You never know until you ask and what’s the worst they can say, No! If you knew me you’d know I ask anyone anything. Thanks for the info. Would you happen to know who I’d need to speak with and how I could get in touch with them?


#18

I figured the larger vessels would be more difficult to find the right ship for the project. I thinking about smaller ships as well. I just thought smaller supply ships might be more readily available. I have about a million things running through my head besides this project. Right now I’m a one-man band. If I’m able to get with the right people and the right equipment it should help to get all of the funding necessary for operations.


#19

You’re right. As a project manager, it’s necessary for you to have an overall list of everything you think necessary for the project or event. My education came at the hand of the first event I ever produced. That taught me to think about everything from the barrel for water all the way up to a bulletproof vehicle and four guys with uzi’s to protect me and the money. A 24-year-old with a half million dollars can be an easy target. I grew up in the big city and know to never take unnecessary chances when it’s not necessary.

You see the two main ships are key to the operation. I’m also thinking about a supply ship, a couple work boats to work as escorts plus some even smaller boats for one or two people on board at a time. Those will have any necessary equipment to have on hand at a moments notice.


#20

I won’t pretend to have all of the answers to every question. If you find anyone who says they have all of the answers to every situation they’re either a liar or fool trying to BS themselves through. In my world that is a very dangerous person. That is the person who will get people hurt or possibly killed. I’m a trained fire/rescue professional and have spent the almost 23 years working in the oil & gas industry. I have never had anyone hurt and never lost a single piece of equipment due to the lack of knowledge or safety. Thank you for your concern. I appreciate it. I truly do.


#21

I apologize if there was some confusion. I don’t believe I deleted anything. If I did I am sorry. As to needing a vessel manager, I believe you’re correct, but I’m not quite sure if I’m at that point just yet. I’m still waiting on a phone call to speak with someone I know with many more years of experience at sea than I could ever have. I will defiantly get back with you to visit with you about some possible candidates for the job. The success and the failure of any project depend on the personnel involved with the project.