Ran across a couple who said no. Neither lost their jobs but neither were they assigned to newbuilds. The upside is the best ABs, mates and engineers wanted to work for them.
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No shit, and they are alive. I’ll go with that.
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Twelve people have lost their lives, twelve families devastated. And first thing the charterer and the owner come up with is “we were not in command” or “the captain had the final responsibility”. What a disgusting lack of ownership and responsibility.
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They try to make it seem as if the captain was the CEO of his own personal part of Seacor. That is just ridiculous. No captain sails without orders from his management. Now it is possible his management told him to sail if he thought it was prudent to do so. If so the captain bears responsibility for what happened as he sailed into known bad conditions. In a year or so we will know more but if history is any guide nothing will change.
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With how stagnant the gulf of mexico is these days, i would speculate that the captain felt his job was on the line and he rolled the dice. Poor excuse, i know, i get it. Just saying…no one in glass houses should throw stones because most of us have pushed the envelope and in hindsight thought better because we got lucky.
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I hope your speculation is wrong. A captain or anyone else in a position of responsibility that chooses to put the life of others at risk just so they can get another pay check is inexcusable.
I agree. When you are the one in that position, trying to find and maintain the balance of keeping the charterer happy, keeping your crew safe and staying employed, its a real challenge.
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When you are the one in that position, trying to find and maintain the balance of keeping the charterer happy, keeping your crew safe and staying employed, its a real challenge.
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Do I keep my job or risk killing my crew should never be a choice. On land it would be considered at the least voluntary manslaughter. I
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Based on what you are saying, no one should ever leave the dock if conditions are anything less than perfect. If that was the case we would all be out of jobs. Having safety parameters that are black/white, not grey, to keep risk factors down is our best defense. Spelling these parameters out and not being cryptic to allow varied understandings and interpretations would help too.
There is the fact that accidents happen when the weather is nice, too.
There were reports that the weather forecast wasn’t anything close to the kind of weather that ended up occuring. These vessels are far from nimble so maybe the capt made a choice based upon the information he had at the time?
I have enough sense to not render judgement until more information comes out on the how, what, when and why decisions were made prior to this ill-fated voyage
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The latest on capsized #SeacorPower:
Now recovery operation
6 rescued, 6 recovered, 7 missing
9268 square miles searched by @USCG
50% of boat searched
The search continues for the 7 missing #SeacorPower crew 9 days since that boat capsized
@NTSB investigation could take 12-24 months
@ weatherchannel / by @ JMichaelsNews
We were 180 miles south of fourchon when this occurred. I had just downloaded the noaa “weather by zone” at 1500. The forecast was 15 to 20 from the east. At 1900 the anemometer was hitting 50kts. There was no special warning that we heard on 16 or 22. The wind held east between 38 gusting to high 40s until 0300 then slowly started to ease. Around 2100 we had decided to give up on making headway and put the boat into the seas at bare steerage and ride out the night like that. We could hear the coast guard helicopters and it was heartbraking to hear what was going on. What we understood was 3 men were alive and had received lifejackets and a radio and were taking shelter in a hatch. When the coast guard lowered a rescue swimmer in the morning he said the hatch was awash and there was no sign of life. I guess there were some warnings close to land but we definitely were not expecting the weather bomb we got.
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It might have been mentioned on here, But I’m concerned that if she was underway without the cranes that are close to the deck level, this would have affected the stability. The Weight of the cranes would have offset the weight of the Legs sticking up 200 feet in the air, Thus lowering the CG
The captain left the port at 1230.
Here’s the radar from 12:45-1:15 from the NWSNewOrleans Twitter
And the radar from 2-2:30 where you can see there are not any advisories NWSNewOrleans Twitter 2
At 3:22 local time, the seacor went under.
With the info I can see, I would have left port too.
NWS does not show offshore conditions from the link but even the inshore conditions don’t look nice.
That’s because there was nothing off shore that day. I use the RadarScope app as well. Currently there’s a bit of rain in grand isle and off shore.
The conditions were completely unexpected that day. I was working from home in my living room and all the sudden the wind was insane! Sent my patio furniture flying into the fence.
Ah, ok. Here’s the radar at 6pm (3 hours after it capsized). It does show that area and the warnings for that area. NWSNewOrleans Twitter 3
That explains a great deal. Thank you
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From VesselFinder click “track” and you can see it left port at 1230, got to the gulf around 220… weather didn’t start to get bad until 3.