Heard that Harvey has started slashing payroll. 30 people cut and more on the way. Joe Boss at his best!
Best of luck to all those that were laid off today…
oh but how y’all just love Joe when times are good and shout me down when I decry THE MAN and his BULLSHIT ways. You all scream how you’ll join a union only when they pry the application from your cold dead hands but look at what that gets you today that times aren’t so wonderful…NOTHING BUT A SHIT SANDWICH!
Bon appetit bubba!
[QUOTE=c.captain;154250]oh but how y’all just love Joe when times are good and shout me down when I decry THE MAN and his BULLSHIT ways. You all scream how you’ll join a union only when they pry the application from your cold dead hands but look at what that gets you today that times aren’t so wonderful…NOTHING BUT A SHIT SANDWICH! Bon appetit bubba![/QUOTE]
Always thought that money would not be the reason the UNION came to the bayou, that it would be the treatment and lack of fairness in the de-hire process. Surprised they don’t come around in the bad times instead of trying to gain a foothold when everything is coming up roses. Not a UNION dood here, I will take my chances with JOE BOSS, just an observation.
So JOE BOSS is bayou mafia… UNION is ???
You asshole a union wouldn’t help in this situation. No charters means boat is tied up and people get laid off. When the orca is tied up and out of work would you keep paying your crew to play cards all day with no work in sight?
[QUOTE=Fraqrat;154254]You asshole a union wouldn’t help in this situation. No charters means boat is tied up and people get laid off. When the orca is tied up and out of work would you keep paying your crew to play cards all day with no work in sight?[/QUOTE]
When my 120 day dispatch on the horizon discovery lasted 21 days because they parked it long term in Orange, do you think Horizon Lines sent me a gross $6500 check out of compassion?
If Hercules Offshore can pay 2 mos severance to laid off hands, why cant we say it is doable for Harvey, etc???
Sometimes the union is a helping hand, sometimes the helping hand is there with no encouragement or pressure from CBA.
[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;154263]When my 120 day dispatch on the horizon discovery lasted 21 days because they parked it long term in Orange, do you think Horizon Lines sent me a gross $6500 check out of compassion?
If Hercules Offshore can pay 2 mos severance to laid off hands, why cant we say it is doable for Harvey, etc???
Sometimes the union is a helping hand, sometimes the helping hand is there with no encouragement or pressure from CBA.[/QUOTE]
That’s what is funny about all these bayou companies, they boast about professionalism, performance, world class, but they can’t back it up past the ink on their brochures. Surprised they wouldn’t be at least looking forward to see that most likely they will need to replace these folks, or a portion of them, a few months down the road. Word gets around… people leave the industry and it takes a lot to get them back after treatment like this. Heard Chouest was firing as many as possible during the holidays last year… Nice! Think they would see that for themselves with needing a 3rd party to force the issue.
Regardless, I do wish these folks the best.
I work at Harvey on a boat now. We have not heard a thing about layoffs. I say this is nothing more than rumors.
Chouest has made pay cuts. This is a first, things aren’t looking good…
They made most go even time. Word is a couple hundred employees have been sitting at home for 2 months now with no boat to go to.
[QUOTE=boattrash2015;154265]I work at Harvey on a boat now. We have not heard a thing about layoffs. I say this is nothing more than rumors.[/QUOTE]
we don’t take too kindly to company mouthpieces round these parts stranger…
What a crock of socialist bull. Companies have a need, and a right, to hire, give raises to attract talent, and lay off people, as appropriate to their business needs.
All a union would do is force the company to retain union slugs based solely on longevity rather than ability.
Who do you want Chouest to send to the Arctic? Their old hands who know nothing about it and screwed up last time, or their recent hires who hopefully have some real experience in Alaska.
Any company that claims they never “layoff”, but instead uses bullshit pretexts to fire people over trivial offenses instead of laying them off is despicable. I don’t know how G-Money looks at himself in the mirror.
The bayou boat companies are crappy employers with lousy working conditions. This isn’t news. The only difference in the last few years is that they were overpaying a lot of people to put up with their crap. As a result of the drop in oil prices, the bayou boat companies can no longer afford to keep excess people on at excess wages for jobs that no longer exist. It was a profitable ride while it lasted, but its over now.
But don’t worry it will come around again in a few years.
I have been talking about this for years. People living paycheck to paycheck and not investing in themselves. The companies will get rid of their dead wood first, if they can. No doubt some people doing a good job will also fall victim. I have already seen this with my own eyes. Headcount on each vessel could be cut back to the safe manning. I have already experienced the first round. If things don’t get better soon there will be more to follow. In my career this is the second time I have had to deal with this. Thankfully I am on charter to the end of 2016. Fingers crossed this is over by then.
Ya there’s nobody special unless you are sniffing around the office all the time. That is until it goes up again and then they’re making deals with you to stay. Pfft…
[QUOTE=tugsailor;154275]What a crock of socialist bull. Companies have a need, and a right, to hire, give raises to attract talent, and lay off people, as appropriate to their business needs.
All a union would do is force the company to retain union slugs based solely on longevity rather than ability.
Who do you want Chouest to send to the Arctic? Their old hands who know nothing about it and screwed up last time, or their recent hires who hopefully have some real experience in Alaska.
Any company that claims they never “layoff”, but instead uses bullshit pretexts to fire people over trivial offenses instead of laying them off is despicable. I don’t know how G-Money looks at himself in the mirror.
The bayou boat companies are crappy employers with lousy working conditions. This isn’t news. The only difference in the last few years is that they were overpaying a lot of people to put up with their crap. As a result of the drop in oil prices, the bayou boat companies can no longer afford to keep excess people on at excess wages for jobs that no longer exist. It was a profitable ride while it lasted, but its over now.
But don’t worry it will come around again in a few years.[/QUOTE]
I have a few good friends and prior co-workers, who work at the “horsehead,” company, they say they are the absolute best liars out of ALL the bayou bubbas. From the first-hand info they told me, they are seeking employment elsewhere, but staying put until they find something else first. They told me they have let over 120 personnel go and furloughed some. I read on another martime link (can’t remember the name of it) that the “horsehead” is not a recommended company to seek employment.
How were they lied to? Did they lie to them and say the price of oil was still $100 a bbl? Did they lie and say all the boats were on charter for $100k a day contracts? Did they lie and say even though your boat is stacked we will pay you full freight to sit on the boat and bitch about it on Facebook? Help me out here what lies were they told? Were they ok being lied to as long as the checks show up?
Are they still pushing the employee stock purchase program? They are far from the 59 dollar high. Closed at 19 yesterday.
Sounds like the prime time to buy then. I’ll sell when it goes back to $50+ in a year or two.
looks like this trend is accelerating
By Bradley Olson - February 12, 2015
(Bloomberg) — The promise of plentiful jobs and salaries as high as a quarter-million dollars a year lured Colombia native Clara Correa Zappa and her British husband to Perth, Australia, at the height of the continent’s oil and gas frenzy.
Engineers were in high demand in 2012, when oil prices exceeded $100 a barrel, making the move across the world a no- brainer. Within two years, though, oil plunged to less than half the 2012 price and Zappa lost her job as a safety analyst. Now she’s worried her husband, who also works in the commodities industry, could also lose his job.
Such anxieties are rising at a time when the number of energy jobs cut globally have climbed well above 100,000 as once-bustling oil hubs in Scotland, Australia and Brazil, among other countries, empty out, according to Swift Worldwide Resources, a staffing firm with offices across the world.
“It’s shocking,” Zappa, 29, said in a telephone interview. There is “so much pressure for him to keep his job and even work extra.”
Her concerns mirror those of tens of thousands of workers who migrated to oil and gas boomtowns worldwide in the years of $100-a-barrel crude, according to Tobias Read, Swift’s chief executive officer. While much of the focus on layoffs has centered on the U.S., where the shale fields that created the glut have seen the steepest cutbacks, workers in oil-related businesses across the globe are suffering, he said.
Job Insecurity
“The issue is one of uncertainty, of whether there’s a job out there,” Read said in a phone interview. “For seven years, there was a shortage of staff. Now for the first time, there’s a surplus. Currently almost no one is hiring.”
One by one, engineer Dipankar Das has heard from friends across the industry as layoffs rolled out across Australia. A friend at one company was asked to take a year of unpaid leave. Many are moving, which is what Das said in an interview he plans to do.
“You get all these skills, all these projects that have been completed over the years, and then all of a sudden it’s over,” said Das, a native of India who has worked in Australia for seven years. “It’s disappointing, but what can you do?”
The outlook isn’t brightening. Citigroup Inc. said oil could drop to “the $20 range” by April as oversupplies build. U.S. crude rose 2.6 percent to $50.10 at 10:18 a.m. in New York.
Further Tightening
How long it will take for the job carnage to stop is now the main question confronting industry workers. Executives at companies including BP Plc and Royal Dutch Shell Plc have announced spending cuts of more than $40 billion and assured investors they’re ready to tighten further if the market doesn’t recover significantly.
Australia stands out as especially hard hit, with a labor force already decimated by a slowdown in the coal mining industry.
Energy companies including BG Group Plc and Woodside Petroleum Ltd., which are spending $70 billion to build natural gas export plants in Australia, are seeing those projects delayed, postponed or winding down, leaving workers with nowhere to go after losing their jobs.
In Brazil, a graft scandal that led to the resignation of the CEO of state-run Petroleo Brasileiro SA on Feb. 4 has deepened the crisis surrounding oil. Brazil’s bounty lies offshore in the Campos basin, a formation rich in hydrocarbons nestled beneath vast layers of salt that make drilling expensive and risky.
Recovery Uncertain
The cloud over Brazil’s industry is halting development projects in Macae, a city of 230,000 about 115 miles (186 kilometers) northeast of Rio de Janeiro. International schools have closed as workers were sent to other regions, and oil royalties to the city this year may be cut in half, said Joao Manuel Alvitos, the city’s planning secretary.
“The scenario is extremely unfavorable,” he said. “We’re hoping for a recovery in the long term, but I don’t believe that the industry is going to recover quickly.”
Mexico’s oil prospects also are grim. In late 2013, the country began taking steps to revise its constitution and end a seven-decade monopoly, anticipating billions in investment from the world’s biggest oil companies.
Petroleos Mexicanos, which employs 153,000 workers and has promised to protect them amid the oil rout, began slashing contracts and purchases this year in a bid to save $2 billion to $3 billion. That plan has left as many as 8,000 workers, many concentrated in the port city of Ciudad del Carmen, without work, said Gonzalo Hernandez, head of the city’s Economic Development Chamber in Campeche state.
Dashed Hopes
Many workers who thought ending the monopoly would mean more jobs feel betrayed.
“The energy reform is a lie,” said Daniel Aquino, a drill rig welder who was waiting for work alongside hundreds of others late last month after the Pemex cuts were made public.
Around the North Sea, where drilling is serviced largely from Aberdeen, Scotland and Stavanger, Norway, job cuts now exceed 11,500, according to DNB Markets and Unite, the U.K.’s largest labor union. As many as 30,000 more may disappear, according to Menon Business Economics AS. BP wrote down the value of its North Sea operations by $3.6 billion, and CEO Bob Dudley on Feb. 3 gave dire warnings about the region’s future.
Late last year, Aleksander Gumos knew many people who were losing their jobs in Norway as the market crash worsened. Still, he just thought he’d have to work more hours to make up for those who were let go. Instead, he was added to the list of unemployed in December.
Gumos, a Polish citizen who relocated to Norway and bought a house in 2009, is trying to be flexible. He’s had several interviews with potential employers, including in the industry and academia.
“I thought I was doing my job well, at least judging by my record, feedback from clients, not least on projects,” said Gumos, who worked for Subsea 7 SA in data processing. “It was very surprising. I almost couldn’t believe it.”
And you couldn’t be happier…well wait I’m sure you’re a little upset for most of the others but anyone working in the GOM you’re giddy about them crying how Joe Boss screwed them over…
[QUOTE=c.captain;154250]oh but how y’all just love Joe when times are good and shout me down when I decry THE MAN and his BULLSHIT ways. You all scream how you’ll join a union only when they pry the application from your cold dead hands but look at what that gets you today that times aren’t so wonderful…NOTHING BUT A SHIT SANDWICH!
Bon appetit bubba![/QUOTE]
In my opinion, most people don’t get that there is a difference in how individual unions operate. Not every union is run the same way in the maritime world and I am sure that unions outside the maritime world operate differently. Living down south, people have this attitude that says “All unions suck”. This seems to be out of ignorance or what they have for education. Usually Fox News is the only education they get.
Some people don’t understand or refuse to understand the benefit of sailing union. That is their loss but I am quite happy that ones who refuse to understand stay working for Joe Boss. They are stupid and hard headed any way.
[QUOTE=Fraqrat;154356]And you couldn’t be happier…well wait I’m sure you’re a little upset for most of the others but anyone working in the GOM you’re giddy about them crying how Joe Boss screwed them over…[/QUOTE]
you get the deal you deserve by thinking and acting the way y’all do in your little ol’ swamp
I will say for myself that while I am not making the money I used to by being self employed I am much happier professionally. Myself and my company has a nice project management job now that allows me to use 30 years of knowledge to its fullest rather than just mash buttons or fill out endless stoopid SMS forms on some rig and having to keep some idiot neanderthal Copenhagen spitting OIM happy with my “performance” so he doesn’t rat me out to Joe in the office. I never belonged in that world of your’s and Joe’s making (yup, you did it together hand in hand) and yes, there is an element of schadenfreude here. No, I am not sorry if you’re butthurt that I ain’t hurt at all the cutbacks happening down there.
Will all of you now wake up the the reality that you are nothing to JB that an expendable ox is what I am wondering these days? Wake up to realize there is more to be obtained than only a big paycheck…you’re been suckered in by THE MAN and now you are beholden to him dictating the terms. What do you have for leverage? Not much in my eyes. But hey if your happy with the truck and fourwheelers, and bassboat then who am I to tell you what would be better like a nice pension when you’ve spent a whole career in the offshore. You might retire with all your toys but Joe retires a billionaire with $10M Palm Beach houses and racehorses and stockcars and 100’ sportfisher yachts that go 60knots and basketball teams and private jets and top shelf booze and expensive hookers! Why do you think there are so many Solid Gold strip clubs in Houston anyway? For the working stiffs to stuff Bengies into those hot body g-strings? HAH!
Y’ALL ARE COMPLETELY BLIND TO REALITY! WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE OR GET ALL YOU BARGAINED FOR EACH AS INDIVIDUALS…PHUCKING PHOOLS!
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