[quote=kzoo pilot;17286]Well, I guess Mr. Greer is the mysterious 'warrant officer" my evaluator referred to last Friday . . . it just is too bad I didn’t get my app in sooner. So, now I have to start digging around to find out the exact issue of why some applications are “more equal” than others. Consistency, consistency, consistency . . .
I would feel better if I knew my app was being reviewed by someone who actually worked on a license and understands the frustration of being jerked around by some faceless flunky behind a desk![/quote]
It’s not just understanding your frustration, but also their own policy, but more importantly, the reasoning behind it.
Mr.Greer is obviously making you comply with all training and assessments required for OICNW as if you’re an original applicant.
I’m sure they quoted policy letter 01-02.
Policy 01-02 actually gives reduced requirements to get OICNW if you have a current STCW that’s only endorsed as RFPNW. That is you, but this policy doesn’t lay out every conceivable situation. So, understanding the reasoning behind policy is just as important as the policy itself. I agree, that if someone sailed before, there would be better understanding.
A particular example in the policy would be section (11c)
"Effective 1 February 2002, an applicant who holds either a 500 GRT or 1,600 GRT license and STCW certification that were issued based on service before 1 August 1998 and now applies for a 3rd mate’s license must:
(1) Acquire the supplemental sea service required by 46 CFR 10.402 and 10.407;
(2) Complete the assessments of skills
(3) Pass the written examination.
Notice the fact that is says nothing about all of the courses? There is a reason for that, but first, how does this apply? You would have to have a current STCW that DOES NOT have OICNW would be the obvious ONLY reason. Chances are, most are like you, with RFPNW. duh?
This is very important because the policy recognizes that an experience licensed mariner (500,1600,or 3rd), with a current STCW (which required a certain amount of classes itself) coupled with the required assessments has fulfilled all required OICNW classes in the entire policy by virtue of practical experience gained with their license.
Mr.Greer missed this buss for some reason. Every applicant, and I just found out that someone else is having the same problem, is being required to attend all courses in the policy letter, even if upgrading.
Mr.Greer is simply WRONG and his actions are contrary to this policy and the recent history of applicants. Myself included.
I really hope they straighten this out, and fast. Mr.Stalfort hasn’t seen nothing yet if this career path is closed by Mr.Greer. I’ll be on that bandwagon and I don’t even have a dog in this fight.