[QUOTE=Steamer;41005]If you have had a medical lately and have a CG-719K you have an STCW compliant medical fitness certificate already.
You can have all the pretty papers you can imagine but that doesn’t mean any particular company or even country has to accept them. If you are looking for a level playing field, go play billiards.
The STCW code provides a framework for national maritime authorities to “flesh out” as they see fit so long as the meat meets the minimum standards of the convention. ENG1 is just the little number on the page that the Queens printers used to identify the document. What part of that don’t you understand? The USCG equivalent is the CG-719K and fulfills the STCW requirements just the same. The fact that the UK doesn’t like the USCG medical certificate is their own internal affair and isn’t even followed by other members of the Red Ensign Group. The US is on the IMO white list and that is what matters. UK port state control doesn’t detain US flagged ships because our crews don’t hold a piece of paper that has ENG1 printed on it.
Because STCW allows each maritime authority leeway in how they print and issue documents you won’t get some standard piece of paper like you think we are supposed to have … there isn’t a standard form. The recent and upcoming changes to licensing and the new MMC are changes we have already made to make our certificates more like other nation’s. But even the Europeans have goofy looking pieces of paper that serve as medical fitness certificates. What exactly do you want? Why is it so hard to believe the CG-719K is not a medical fitness certificate as defined by the ILO, the IMO, and the WHO? Our medical certificate is good enough for Panama, the Cayman Islands, Marshall Islands and nearly everyone else on the white list. Look up ILO C-73 and see who the signatories are … the originator of the vaunted ENG1 is not among those who have ratified the convention, neither is the US. So don’t whine about the US not providing the same standard as the UK as regards STCW.
[B]White List checklist [/B]
[I]Each IMO Member on the White List has submitted and had verified the following information: [/I]
· the name, postal address and telephone and facsimile numbers and organization chart of the ministry, department or governmental agency responsible for administering the Convention;
· a concise explanation of the legal and administrative measures provided and taken to ensure compliance, particularly with (STCW) regulations I/6 and I/9;
I/9 is the medical fitness certificate
I have to hand it to you. You like doing other people’s homework and take the time to put it here, but if you keep going in this direction, you might as well go get the damn physical for c.captain too, because that about what it will take. He already said he should not be required to get one even if it’s a requirement of an employer. Can’t change opinion of an old salty dog.
If Crescent City Pilots called with a job, but said I needed a rectal examination for employment - I might not agree with it, but I sure as hell would be butt ass naked grabbing ankles at the doctors office before bitching about it here.