I’m a 3/M unlimited just about to get an unlimited DP Cert. I spent the last year on supply boats and am looking to make the jump to semi subs or drill ships as a DPO. I’ve been talking to a few drilling companies which seem interested. If I had my pick of the litter who should I want to be hired by? Who pays the most? Who do I have the highest possibility of getting hired on with? Maybe someone with more knowledge about the drilling companies could rank them. Transocean, Ensco, Atwood, Noble, Seadrill, Pacific, and any others I forgot.
There is a search function…
And people wonder why academy guys are having a hard time getting hired…
Are you an unlimited 3/m or just have a an unlimited 3/m license?
And this is why like the man said companies are being very picky about who they hire, brats like you go there get on a boat get the DP time and jump ship, and its all planned in advance. What a waste of resources. Make these bozos sail AB for a couple years before they are allowed in the wheelhouse.
Arrogance, its the new mandatory requirement to work on the rigs.
You said what I was thinking but I have been harassed myself recently for being a bully. I just attempted to illustrate how the search function works. This really is indicative of how these kids look to move their careers along. You can work your way up to UL chief mate on large OSV’s. The argument is “then I won’t be able to get my chief mate time and never have my UL Master”. My reply is do you honestly believe you’re gonna get a chief mate position on a drill ship in the next few years. The chances of you sailing in a chief mate slot on a drill ship before your 30th birthday are very slim if not nonexistent. I admire their tenacity but in their hubris they make all their classmates look bad. Let the mud boat company get my DP certificate then leave em hanging. It would be easier to understand if you had been with the OSV company for more than a couple of years and you had hit the glass ceiling. Maybe even if the company was a smaller one and you wanted to go with a bigger outfit for better chance at advancement. We all make wagers as to how fast an academy kid is gone as soon as we know his book is signed off.
[QUOTE=Cap16;109001]I’m a 3/M unlimited just about to get an unlimited DP Cert. I spent the last year on supply boats and am looking to make the jump to semi subs or drill ships as a DPO. I’ve been talking to a few drilling companies which seem interested. If I had my pick of the litter who should I want to be hired by? Who pays the most? Who do I have the highest possibility of getting hired on with? Maybe someone with more knowledge about the drilling companies could rank them. Transocean, Ensco, Atwood, Noble, Seadrill, Pacific, and any others I forgot.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you should stay where you are until you get “MORE KNOWLEDGE” about this business.
Who is really to blame here? If that is the right word. The kid, or steppingstone boat company.
Damn man your getting burned, these guys are fucking ass holes haha. Use the search function, said every douche on g.captain. And if the OSV companies would offer even time, maybe they wouldn’t loose so many people to drill ships. Nicky Collins from Eco told me that himself that is the biggest reason why they lose people to drill ships is for the schedule.
OSV+$$$ for training= Drilling new hire.
[QUOTE=GLMAscott;109064]Damn man your getting burned, these guys are fucking ass holes haha. Use the search function, said every douche on g.captain. And if the OSV companies would offer even time, maybe they wouldn’t loose so many people to drill ships. Nicky Collins from Eco told me that himself that is the biggest reason why they lose people to drill ships is for the schedule.[/QUOTE]
I think that is only part of the problem. You can hardly blame a guy to want to go to a drill ship or semi. Get paid 200K a year for working half the year and in many cases you may qualify for significant tax credits for over seas work. Boat companies either refuse to or can not compete with a drilling contractor’s pay, benefits, schedule and training. All things equal, I would be on an anchor handler right now, but I am not working for Love, I am working for money. Working on a rig is just not as fun for a mariner as working on a traditional vessel that goes in and out of port. I made the move 5 years ago in September. I can tell you it was the best decision I have ever made financially and professionally. I have learned more in these 5 years than I thought possible. It is a different sense of accomplishment. People think we are in the business of drilling wells. We are in the business to make money. If my rig is making money then it is good. If we are on downtime then it is not good. Budget and up time balanced with a safe operation. That is what I do now.
I also disagree with a 3rd mate working a couple of years as an AB. That is just ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Capt. Lee;109070]I think that is only part of the problem. You can hardly blame a guy to want to go to a drill ship or semi. Get paid 200K a year for working half the year and in many cases you may qualify for significant tax credits for over seas work. Boat companies either refuse to or can not compete with a drilling contractor’s pay, benefits, schedule and training. All things equal, I would be on an anchor handler right now, but I am not working for Love, I am working for money. Working on a rig is just not as fun for a mariner as working on a traditional vessel that goes in and out of port. I made the move 5 years ago in September. I can tell you it was the best decision I have ever made financially and professionally. I have learned more in these 5 years than I thought possible. It is a different sense of accomplishment. People think we are in the business of drilling wells. We are in the business to make money. If my rig is making money then it is good. If we are on downtime then it is not good. Budget and up time balanced with a safe operation. That is what I do now.
I also disagree with a 3rd mate working a couple of years as an AB. That is just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I have no problem bringing in people. I just hate some of the new hires entitlements they think they get. Some new people I have seen come through are very smart and capable DPOs, but they act like 5 year olds and think its their own world and everyone has to fit into that. But to answer the question of what company is best for new DPO’s, one has to ask which company will hire people on without the drilling background. Which company will allow growth. And which company will promote from within.
Here we go with the same old uninformed tired bullshit. Chouest is the only company I know that starts out at 28/14 schedule. It is well documented around here that if you can work it out with your relief even time is possible at Chouest. Every other company has even time in the door if that is what you desire. I know someone that works at just about every big company and many of the smaller ones. They all work even time and this proves my point about being called an asshole. There is a fucking search function on this site as well as the interweb as a whole. If people would just make a half assed attempt they might find the info they seek. As usual some people need to be spoon fed every fucking thing.
Does chouest make guys sign a commitment of any sorts to stay with the company if they put them through DP schooling?
Yes ECO makes you sign a contract to take Advanced DP. I believe it is around $3500.00 A couple of days pay is not going to stop anyone from leaving if they decide to.
[QUOTE=“rshrew;109115”]Does chouest make guys sign a commitment of any sorts to stay with the company if they put them through DP schooling?[/QUOTE]
I’m pretty sure they do
Wasn’t aware of the cost thank you, hard to keep people around with all the big $ being thrown around.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t drilling companies give a good size sign on bonus? So what you have to pay back $5k, that’s not much compared to the bonus and the money you get in your check isn’t even touched.
I image it is frustrating for mud boat companies. I bet there’s no way they can keep up with drill companies when it comes to money. Personally, I like the boat handling and well let’s face it, you don’t handle a drill rig. I feel pretty lucky to be hired on as a mate, but it’s a shame I have friends who like running and handling boats and they were only offered an AB position and they were told they would spend 18 months on deck… what kind of offer is that?! But again, it’s from people getting their unlimited DPO then jumping ship.
Sounds like a bunch of hawsepipers who regret the decisions they’ve made and want to make sure everyone else does the same. Academy grads have paid their dues the same as everyone one else. Truth be told the academy route is more challenging. If it wasn’t everyone would be going. Why should an academy grad spend years on deck scrubbing your toilets when don’t have to? You really think you would do the same if the alternative offered more money and more time at home?
[QUOTE=“Cap16;109133”]Sounds like a bunch of hawsepipers who regret the decisions they’ve made and want to make sure everyone else does the same. Academy grads have paid their dues the same as everyone one else. Truth be told the academy route is more challenging. If it wasn’t everyone would be going. Why should an academy grad spend years on deck scrubbing your toilets when don’t have to? You really think you would do the same if the alternative offered more money and more time at home?[/QUOTE]
And it sounds like you don’t have a clue. How long have you been out?