I have completed the Basic DP course along with my familiarization sea time and log book tasks. Will be completing the advanced DP sim course in a month or two. Was wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of drilling companies training a cadet who has already taken these courses. I will have my USCG 3M license in a year and would love to find a training experience to get my foot in the door prior to. Positive and negative feedback welcome. I know its coming.
Then why the FUCK did you post that kid?..do you like to experience intense pain or maybe you cannot feel pain because you have no brain?
anyway because you are obviously a person living in a perpetual vegetative state and unable to read any existing threads in this forum, I command you to leave this hallowed place forthwith and posthaste…and pretty damned quick as well!
here’s the way to the exit and please let the door hit you in the ass as you depart…
now go or I shall taunt you a second time-a!
How can you take DP Advance when you have no DP time and you won’t be getting any?
I used the search function. I browsed the cadet talk. There’s nothing relevant. I made a new thread. Big deal. I will have spent over $6,000 out of my pocket to take these courses to land myself a good job. I know what I want to do and I know a DP cert is required to do it. I’m taking the steps I need to take. Being pro-active. What is so wrong with that C-Captain? And I do have DP time. I have 45 or so days of time on a k-pos system on a DP-2 vessel. I have my log book tasks completed and signed. If you want something, take it.
What happened to the route nearly all my classmates took… suffering it out as AB (or OS if necessary) for a year or two and having some faith that by working hard and acting smart you’ll land a assistant DPO job?
Or the route I took… sailing a rust bucket for a few years while keeping my ear out for openings?
Has this option disappeared?
[QUOTE=john;129856]What happened to the route nearly all my classmates took… suffering it out as AB (or OS if necessary) for a year or two and having some faith that by working hard and acting smart you’ll land a assistant DPO job?
Or the route I took… sailing a rust bucket for a few years while keeping my ear out for openings?
Has this option disappeared?[/QUOTE]
I 100% agree that it is only beneficial to work as an AB or OS, or sail anything that floats and gain skills…BUT… Why suffer it out or sail a rust bucket when you don’t have to. When its quite evident that the majority of drilling companies are hiring 3rd Mates right out of the academies and turning them into DPOs. Maybe its the boom, the newbuilds, or maybe just maybe they like the quality of employees they have been receiving. I don’t think or feel that I am entitled to jack shit, I think I want a good job and I’m trying to take steps to make that happen. I browse alot of forums on here and unanimously conclude that positive feedback to cadets is not reality. Very disappointing. Its like a goddamn civil war. But, I will get mine with or without anybodies help. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=KrustySalt;129852]How can you take DP Advance when you have no DP time and you won’t be getting any?[/QUOTE]
I just learned that I cannot take the advanced course without a competency. I do however have my familiarisation DP time. That I did get from a DP-2 vessel.
[QUOTE=john;129856]What happened to the route nearly all my classmates took… suffering it out as AB (or OS if necessary) for a year or two and having some faith that by working hard and acting smart you’ll land a assistant DPO job?
Or the route I took… sailing a rust bucket for a few years while keeping my ear out for openings?
Has this option disappeared?[/QUOTE]
I agree 100% that working as an AB or OS on anything that floats is valuable experience where important skills will be learned. I understand that a good work ethic is priceless. BUT… why suffer it out? why sail a rust bucket? When it is very very evident that the majority drilling companies are hiring 3rd mates right out of the academies and turning them into DPOs. Maybe its the boom, the new builds, or maybe just maybe they like the quality of the employees they have been receiving. I don’t think or feel that I am entitled to jack shit. I want a good job and am taking the steps needed to do so. I browse a lot of forums on here and unanimously conclude that cadets getting positive feedback on anything is not reality. Its like a goddamn civil war. But, I will get mine, with or without anybodies help. Thanks.
John, this message isnt directed at you.
[QUOTE=KrustySalt;129852]How can you take DP Advance when you have no DP time and you won’t be getting any?[/QUOTE]
I just learned that I cannot take the Advance course without a competency as of 2012. I do however have my familiarisation DP time. That I did get aboard a DP-2 vessel
How much were your student loans?
[QUOTE=john;129856]What happened to the route nearly all my classmates took… suffering it out as AB (or OS if necessary) for a year or two and having some faith that by working hard and acting smart you’ll land a assistant DPO job?
Or the route I took… sailing a rust bucket for a few years while keeping my ear out for openings?
Has this option disappeared?[/QUOTE]
More like what happened to the idea that maritime schools were for training and educating mariners, not DPOs?
What school do you go to and whose filling your head with this crap?
Kid, you will learn more in a year getting shafted daily while working for TAL then you would learn in 10 ‘sailing’ as a DPO. If those companies weren’t paying 100k to newbies, like they currently do, you guys would probably be killing each other over AMO jobs.
There are loads of jobs available on ships and boats where you will actually learn something, but no, all you want is the bright lights, big city of K-Pos.
What a joke…
[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;129864]More like what happened to the idea that maritime schools were for training and educating mariners, not DPOs?
What school do you go to and whose filling your head with this crap?
Kid, you will learn more in a year getting shafted daily while working for TAL then you would learn in 10 ‘sailing’ as a DPO. If those companies weren’t paying 100k to newbies, like they currently do, you guys would probably be killing each other over AMO jobs.
There are loads of jobs available on ships and boats where you will actually learn something, but no, all you want is the bright lights, big city of K-Pos.
What a joke…[/QUOTE]
Seem that people who have obtained a license without any legal obligations should be free to seek work where ever they like.
Why berate individual posters because some sectors of the industry are more automated then others? If they want to learn old-timey sailor skills they can buy a sail boat or sail on the tall ships that posters here like to beat up on.
[QUOTE=makinwaves;129859]I agree 100% that working as an AB or OS on anything that floats is valuable experience where important skills will be learned. I understand that a good work ethic is priceless. BUT… why suffer it out? why sail a rust bucket? When it is very very evident that the majority drilling companies are hiring 3rd mates right out of the academies and turning them into DPOs. Maybe its the boom, the new builds, or maybe just maybe they like the quality of the employees they have been receiving. I don’t think or feel that I am entitled to jack shit. I want a good job and am taking the steps needed to do so. I browse a lot of forums on here and unanimously conclude that cadets getting positive feedback on anything is not reality. Its like a goddamn civil war. But, I will get mine, with or without anybodies help. Thanks.
John, this message isnt directed at you.[/QUOTE]
How is getting a job as a mate on DP 2 OSV fresh out of school making I’m sure at least $600 per day not a GREAT job? And I’m probably low by 50-75 per day.
MMP second mates on Crowley managed Express ships don’t even average $550 per day.
Come back down to reality. This isn’t about work ethic, its about actual work.
And as cliche as it obviously is…
That which doesn’t kill you will only make you stronger.
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[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;129866]Seem that people who have obtained a license without any legal obligations should be free to seek work where ever they like.
Why berate individual posters because some sectors of the industry are more automated then others? If they want to learn old-timey sailor skills they can buy a sail boat or sail on the tall ships that posters here like to beat up on.[/QUOTE]
Didn’t say a single thing about obligations. Didn’t say a single thing about sail boats. Have tons of respect for capable sail boaters. Tried sailing team at school. Just couldn’t get the hang of it. Probably better off saying I was downright horrible at it.
Have repeatedly said that those with no obligation can work wherever they want.
This type of career path is not why MARAD just gave $1M to each academy. I see this OP as just more fodder for the GOM and industry hawsepipers to see the schools as insult. Can’t blame them.
[QUOTE=makinwaves;129853]I used the search function. I browsed the cadet talk. There’s nothing relevant. I made a new thread. Big deal. I will have spent over $6,000 out of my pocket to take these courses to land myself a good job. I know what I want to do and I know a DP cert is required to do it. I’m taking the steps I need to take. Being pro-active. What is so wrong with that C-Captain? And I do have DP time. I have 45 or so days of time on a k-pos system on a DP-2 vessel. I have my log book tasks completed and signed. If you want something, take it.[/QUOTE]
excuses, excuses…all I ever get are excuses!
What kind of vessel and what did you do as a cadet? When did you take DP basic?
[QUOTE=makinwaves;129860]I just learned that I cannot take the Advance course without a competency as of 2012. I do however have my familiarisation DP time. That I did get aboard a DP-2 vessel[/QUOTE]
if you had read any of the old threads on this topic here you would have known that KID!
DO THE FUCKING RESEARCH BEFORE BEATING YOUR BLOODY GUMS HERE ASKING BONEHEAD QUESTIONS OF US!
Hey everyone, I am returning to sea after 10 or so years working shoreside. Last time I sailed I was on a 80’s built rustbucket, screw that.
I WANT TO GET ON A NEWBUILD! I saw the video of the Jackson Offshore newbuild sliding down the way and I want to be the mate on that. Or on a Hornbeck newbuild or a Chouest or the other newbuilds. They are so modern and stuff, I want to be on one of those. They will let me start Superadvanced DP the next day I am on board right? DPO for me, f this mariner crap.
sarcasm intended
[QUOTE=Doodlebug;129874]Hey everyone, I am returning to sea after 10 or so years working shoreside. Last time I sailed I was on a 80’s built rustbucket, screw that.
I WANT TO GET ON A NEWBUILD! I saw the video of the Jackson Offshore newbuild sliding down the way and I want to be the mate on that. Or on a Hornbeck newbuild or a Chouest or the other newbuilds. They are so modern and stuff, I want to be on one of those. They will let me start Superadvanced DP the next day I am on board right? DPO for me, f this mariner crap.
sarcasm intended[/QUOTE]
Well said, but you might get a pointy stick for calling an 80s built vessel a rust bucket around these parts…
[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;129876]Well said, but you might get a pointy stick for calling an 80s built vessel a rust bucket around these parts…[/QUOTE]
I have fond memories of all the rusties I have been on, Offshore Logistics MV Jeb Stuart I was on was built in the 70’s.
[QUOTE=Doodlebug;129877]I have fond memories of all the rusties I have been on, Offshore Logistics MV Jeb Stuart I was on was built in the 70’s.[/QUOTE]
Now you’re talking. Just last February I laid up 1969 horizon discovery to be swapped out with 1973 horizon trader. Great old rust buckets!
^ Sure, just you, your old wooden leg, and your glass eye, and your Polish pencil!
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DOCKER#4: And drink whiskey through a firehose.
SPAMANATO: And go home and fuck their wives silly ‘til breakfast. They was some fuckin’ heroes back then, wasn’t they?
NICK: Shit is thick in here tonight, gentlemen.
HORSEFACE: What can you do? This generation, they just don’t know.
LITTLE BIG ROY: Ain’t never gonna be what it was. No indeed.
SPAMANATO: Every night, with these old fucks, it’s like 1952 and shit.
ZIGGY: Hey, hey, you know when I was your age, boys, I unloaded 10 ships in a Goddamn day. You know, I’d do it with one arm after a 300-pound bag of Polish dildos fell on me.
SHAVED HEAD DOCKER: What the fuck is a Polish dildo?
ZIGGY: Actually, at my house, it’s a ring of kielbasa.
NICK: Christ, here we go again.
SPAMANATO: Break it out pretty boy!
ZIGGY: But you know what? Where you boys have problems I’m sure any old breakfast link’ll do.
DOCKER#5: You know he’s gonna pull out his dick, right?
LITTLE BIG ROY: That boy ain’t right.
ZIGGY: It was just me… Me and my old wooden leg, and my glass eye, and my Polish pencil!
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