can any body tell me how to go about becoming a designated examiner?
I have ofter wondered about this process myself. I would be very interested to know as well.
any ideas as to where i can recieve formal instruction on observation and assement techniques? are there classes available to take? do i just ask the nmc to be a d.e.?
train the trainer class maybe? ask the NMC with that nvic/enclosure and exact paragraph referenced.
shouldn’t most towboat captains have #2 though?
(c) Meet one of the following criteria:
- Have received formal instruction in techniques of observation and
assessment.
2. Have experience conducting assessments of competence such as experience
assessing junior mates or pilots as part of a program run by a company for
training apprentice mates (steersman), or as part of a safety management
system.
The NMC website lists schools with DE courses,
Mid-Atlantic Maritime “Academy” (among others) has a 1 day course for DE’s.
Course Number: 1791
Course Length: 8 hours
Price: $300.
You will be contacted by Academy administrator within 1 business day with seating availability to complete your course registration.
Minimum Class Size: 2
Maximum Class Size: 12
Class scheduled as needed. Call for dates (757)464-6008
This is not a USCG approved course, however, the course has been determined that it meets the intent of United States Coast Guard Navigation and Vessel Inspection Circular (NVIC) 4-01, Licensing and Manning for Officers of Towing Vessels. The USCG would accept the completion of this 8-hour course as satisfying the training requirement of NVIC 4-01 for towing vessel designated examiners as per NMC Ltr. 16720/4 December 27, 2006 to Mid-Atlantic Maritime Academy.
I always thought the Designated examiners were just clerks that worked at the REC.
Not at all. DE’s are how people in the towing industry get their TOAR’s signed off. It’s the only way to get a towing endorsement.
You take a one day approved course, send resume, recommendation letter from your employer, and if coast likes it they send a letter saying you are a approved DE, I know cause I is one
Haha oops I thought you were talking about the REC proctors.
[QUOTE=LI_Domer;131376]I always thought the Designated examiners were just clerks that worked at the REC.[/QUOTE]
In Government empolyment speak, they are a “Legal Instrument Examiner” (LIE). There are many LIEs at the NMC and RECs.
No surprises there, we all suspected it…
I’m researching how to be a DE and found this.
0.405 Qualification as Qualified Assessor and Designated Examiner.
(a) To become a Qualified Assessor (QA), an applicant must have documentary evidence to establish—
(1) Experience, training, or instruction in assessment techniques;
(2) Qualifications in the task for which the assessment is being conducted; and
(3) Possession of the level of endorsement, or other professional credential, which provides proof that they have attained a level of experience and qualification equal or superior to the relevant level of knowledge, skills, and abilities to be assessed.
(b) To become a Designated Examiner (DE) for towing officer assessment records (TOARs), an applicant must have documentary evidence to establish—
(1) Experience, training, or instruction in assessment techniques on towing vessels;
(2) Qualifications on towing vessels in the task for which the assessment is being conducted; and
(3) Possession of the level of endorsement on towing vessels, or other professional credential, which provides proof that they have attained a level of qualification equal or superior to the relevant level of knowledge, skills, and abilities described in the training objectives.
(c) Documentary evidence may be in the form of performance evaluations, which include an evaluation of effectiveness in on-the-job organization and delivery of training, or a certificate of successful completion from an “assessor training” course.
(d) In order to renew their qualifications, each QA and DE must have either experience, training, or evidence of instruction in effective assessment within the past 5 years.
When I ask I get conflicting info, some say you need to hold a master of towing for 3 years, but I don’t see where it says that in the CFR’s.
Has anyone got their DE recently?
I’ve had a DE a few times. My last one expired a few years ago. The best thing about it was going down memory lane while scanning all my old seatime letters. But really, a DE is as useful as insurance from the Old Glory Insurance Corporation. History shows the USCG will always implement another extension.
Maine Maritime Academy has a brief online QA course that also meets the requirements for DE.
If you are thinking of become a DE, you first question should be: how much extra does it pay.
If the answer is nothing, then reconsider doing it.
If you want to be a competent DE you need to become very familiar with NVIC 03-16. The info you are looking for is in there.
Gotcha, don’t help guys coming up and it doesn’t look good on a resume.
Gotcha, if I’ve read the navic and the cfr and still have questions don’t pursue it. Great help keep it coming!
I didn’t give you a fish. I told you how you might catch one. The TOARs a DE will sign are in that NVIC as well as guidance on how a DE will conduct themselves when assessing license candidates. How do you plan to act as a DE if you’ve never seen the things you’re going to use and will be expected to follow?
I don’t know, maybe ask? Find out before you get it? Ask people that have done it before. No one is born with knowledge, it’s all learned. But I gotcha, don’t ask here, if you can’t figure it out on your own, don’t ask anyone. Good advice there.