Cause and Effect

he is a major shareholder of BYD

Indeed he is and now BYD are outstripping Tesla. This may indicate a divorce between Trump and his First Lady Elonia Musk.

I call this Karma…….and a conflict of interests.

so?
The EU want a war so they wont let Trump get in the way.
Obvious if you look at the lead up to it well before Putin invaded.
Putin wanted a security pact to cover the Russians in Ukraine and several other issues, UN ignored him. Apparently he tried 3 times.
I have watched a few interviews of ex EU foreign ministers all saying what they couldnt say when employed and that is they knew Putin will be forced to invade if they ignore him, EU wants war
The old school thinks they will win the war of attrition.
Bonus to wipe EU debt, common war theme.
Now they will have to give up Ukrainian territory for peace and Putins failure to retreat will be the go ahead for war.

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Except they could even get the numbers right: for the EU they include VAT as a tariff (which is not since it applies to all products, noy just imports), but did not include sales tax in the US.

BYD finishing off the car industry worldwide
Your T&TDS is blinding you.
The loonie left media thinks tesla is the only other manufacturer in the world.
Yes the loonies are happy to torch a locally made car to help who?

They are not fair, but that didnt worry the other side..
I wonder how many years the unfair tariffs will need to on to get all the money back..lol

Trump has moved away from the EU plus NATO and now you are saying that the EU “WANTS” war with Russia.

You are sillier than Trump and delusional.

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There is plenty of research showing the EU missed many opportunities to stop this.
Obama then bidens in ukraine what was all that about…CIA changed the President.
Biden got a kick back for the money disguised as his sons employment, hence kept sending it.

As I said I will find the post and show the interviews of the government staff that knew it but couldnt say it back in the day.

Meanwhile here is some news your obviously not getting on a bar stool at the Ettamogah Pub

So Trump says I give up, fight your own war and I will trade with the winner no doubt.
( knowing full well the EU will be buying arms energy and aircraft from the USA, they already have their Tesla factory)

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Trump’s Tariffs Are Designed to Backfire - no paywall.

the tariffs don’t appear to be based on actual trade barriers, which undermines their entire justification. Contrary to White House messaging, the formula for determining the new rates turns out to have been based simply on the dollar value of goods the U.S. imports from a given country relative to how much it exports. The administration took the difference between the two numbers, divided it by each country’s total exports, then divided that total in half, and slapped an import tax on countries at that rate. The theoretically reciprocal tariffs are not, in fact, reciprocal.

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Breaking news…….being mindful that the US exports $160 billion worth of goods and services per year and has a massive debt level held by China.

bargaining chip, easy to turn on and off

thats a bonus for the USA

You just keep on defending the indefensible.

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You are wasting your precious time . All your effort, material , data , even science and phd stuff thrown at them will fall off like a water from the duck’s back.Cognitive dissonance can not be cured by any debate. They ignore , they reject it . No effing way.
They have been brainwashed by liberal woke media beyond repair. I read some posts here in utter disbelief how delusional some are. And some will hate You only for having a different point of view, different opinien . For me , living where this conflict is right under my nose this wokemons are worse then zombies. Leave it . Let5 them stew in their gallactic bullshit. The awakening will come soon :wink: and it will not be to their likening.

The voice of reason explains the lunacy of warmongers.

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Who are these ex Foreign Ministers?
When did the say this?
Have you got any links to your sources?
If not, with names and timeline maybe it is possible to verify your statement.

PS> References from the last weeks is not relevant, as that is in response to Trump siding with Putin and trying to blame Ukraine for starting the war
It has become clear that USA is no longer a reliable ally for anybody.

PS> Russia annexed Crimea and “occupied” part of east Ukraine in 2014. Full blown attack started in Febr, 2022.

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Bugge,

I see that the UK is now questioning AUKUS.

“ The United Kingdom has launched a parliamentary inquiry into the AUKUS partnership, with its scope to include the “impact of geopolitical shifts” on the deal since it was signed.

Wednesday’s announcement in London comes just over four weeks after US President Donald Trump appeared unfamiliar with the trilateral defence pact while giving a press conference with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer in the Oval Office.

When asked whether they’d be discussing AUKUS, Mr Trump replied: “What does that mean?”

The agreement was signed between Australia, the US and UK in 2021.”

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Geez here ya go.
This guy has several saying the same thing

please explain why you mentioned why China owning USD debt is a bad thing or good thing?

The psychology of a trade war is the same as that of a shooting war. At first there is a giddy optimism that it will all be over by Christmas, because your side is superior to the other side.

Then, as the losses mount, comes the desire for revenge. Whatever was the pretext for the war is forgotten. The other side is now just pure evil and must pay.

If you’re losing then you need allies against a common enemy. Maybe that enemy was your friend before the war. Now it must be crushed, and strange alliances will be forged to crush it. Trading partners and alliances switch.

Our biggest trading ally was the EU, the third biggest trading entity on the planet. And we’re switching our trading partner to Russia, which has GNP less than Texas?

Sheer lunacy.

That’s where the cult has brought us.

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Obama EU and Biden has put you where you are today re Russia and Ukraine.