This is to help others and maybe answer questions of my own.
I got my Approval to test letter. Vague as fuck.
Module-451 Deck General & Nav General
Module-452 Deck Safey & Rules
Passing score for both 70
What questions are on those tests? I have the Murphy 3rd mate books with 3,000+ Questions in each book. To this day I have NEVER found a book that lists the questions that are going to be on those tests and only those tests.
I did talk to a AB and he told me to get this and I did
Navigation Rules and Regulations Handbook
Study rules 19-35
That’s it boys and girls fill free to add any info to help others when they do a Gcaptain search
[QUOTE=Menizzi;175097]This is to help others and maybe answer questions of my own.
I got my Approval to test letter. Vague as fuck.
Module-451 Deck General & Nav General
Module-452 Deck Safey & Rules
Passing score for both 70
What questions are on those tests? I have the Murphy 3rd mate books with 3,000+ Questions in each book. To this day I have NEVER found a book that lists the questions that are going to be on those tests and only those tests.
I did talk to a AB and he told me to get this and I did
Navigation Rules and Regulations Handbook
Study rules 19-35
That’s it boys and girls fill free to add any info to help others when they do a Gcaptain search[/QUOTE]
I’m sure all the questions that can be thrown at you are on the NMC website…your issue is to make the studying more concise? Since you already have the 3rd mate books, that gives you more than enough information to be prepared… If you used lapware, you’d be able to generate practice tests related to the module numbers you listed.
There has to be an Able Seaman textbook somewhere for purchase too, I would think. Houston Marine, Marine Education Textbooks, etc…
Studying for your AB is like going for the 100 ton license minus the chartwork.
Just took AB at Sea School in bayou la batre… First and foremost do NOT go their to take it, and secondly it is fuckin easy… If you have been working in the boat industry, you should have no problem… The only thing that got me was the Aid to Navigtion ( I don’t see many buoys and shit like that. Work in the blue). But as far as the rest of it goes, it’s all common sense and if you spend any time in the bridge talking to captains or better yet, sitting there listening and asking questions, it will be a cake walk… Pay attention when your on the boat, ask questions, and listen to the captain and take everything in… Good luck to you and if you just absolutely have to study before you go take it msg me cause I have the book with everything highlighted that you need to know for the test…
[QUOTE=josh.reid24;175106] The only thing that got me was the Aid to Navigtion ( I don’t see many buoys and shit like that. Work in the blue). [/QUOTE]
I can see we have another Gulf of Mexico mudboat captain in the making here.
Knowing bouys is actually very important. It’s how the experience AB on lookout keeps the new young mate from running aground.
Actually, I think most OSs attempting to become ABs probably need the course, however easy it may be.
I agree with you 100%! I never said it wasn’t important, just said I never see them… The course in General was easy, just the fact that I never see buoys is what gave me hell with trying to learn them. I was the only guy in there that works on OSV’s, the rest were tug guys, and they caught hell with lights and day shapes… They helped me with buoys, I helped them with lights and day shapes…
Well hell, nowadays ignorance like that will catapult you to operations. You just can’t admit that you don’t know certain things. You have to casually gain your information from the crew and exploit them later. My last supervisor had less sea time than my luggage.
I have no shame… If I don’t know something I’ll be the first to admit it… I’d rather look stupid and ask a dumbass question to learn something then look stupid by knowing everything…
Well then back to the boats you go. I had high hopes for you. How can you expect to be a manager and have integrity? Jeaux Bawss was probably waiting in the wings to train his next padawan.
[QUOTE=pogey-poboy;175117]Well hell, nowadays ignorance like that will catapult you to operations. You just can’t admit that you don’t know certain things. You have to casually gain your information from the crew and exploit them later. My last supervisor had less sea time than my luggage.[/QUOTE]
That reminds me of a Car 54 episode where the entire precinct is bluffing as though they know why it’s an important day, when none of them actually knows. Everybody whips themselves into a frenzy and gets ready for a huge party (nobody knows where), and the Governor of New York winds up making a vague proclamation on the radio before they realize that it’s just the anniversary of Toody and Muldoon becoming partners.
Just out of curiosity, what makes you so special to fuck with someone asking a question… I’ve always been taught the only stupid question is the one not asked… You must have started in this field all knowing and not have to ever ask any questions… Why does a simple question always have to have some kind of debate or have someone beat around the bush and fuck with you before some decent person comes through and answers it?
I don’t think I’m special. I started out here green, just like everyone else. I kept my head down, mouth shut, and did what I was told.
When I acquired the sea time, I paid for my own material to prepare for the tests.
Debate and bullshit is mandatory on here because some of us are a little thicker skinned and not wound so tight that we get our feelings hurt so easily. Without debate and bs, this would be Pinterest.
Learn to weed through the bs, be patient, and you will get your answers eventually. You could have easily ignored me. I can tell that I struck a nerve with you, so lesson learned.
Good luck in your endeavors. Keep the barnacle side on the bottom and in between the red and green.
[QUOTE=josh.reid24;175111]I apologize in advance for my ignorance but over never heard this before… What exactly do you mean by a mudboat captain?[/QUOTE]
Mudboat= boat that carries liquid mud and dry mud and such
[QUOTE=josh.reid24;175111]I apologize in advance for my ignorance but over never heard this before… What exactly do you mean by a mudboat captain?[/QUOTE]
Mudboat captain = OSV/PSV captain. Generally speaking a supply boat operator than doesn’t venture far from coastal waters.
Gotcha… Didn’t know if was a reference towards the boat, thought it was a reference towards the type of captain… Damn sure never heard it called that before… I’ve been called a lot, but never a mud boat…
[QUOTE=josh.reid24;175123]Just out of curiosity, what makes you so special to fuck with someone asking a question… I’ve always been taught the only stupid question is the one not asked… You must have started in this field all knowing and not have to ever ask any questions… Why does a simple question always have to have some kind of debate or have someone beat around the bush and fuck with you before some decent person comes through and answers it?[/QUOTE]
There are no stupid questions, however, there seems to be a lot of inquisitive idiots…
Back to the topic at hand. The AB test is pretty easy. If you have all the prerequisites to test and you bought a book from Houston Marine (or a comparable outfit) and a copy of the Rules of the Road, you should pass with flying colors.
[QUOTE=josh.reid24;175135]Gotcha… Didn’t know if was a reference towards the boat, thought it was a reference towards the type of captain… Damn sure never heard it called that before… I’ve been called a lot, but never a mud boat…[/QUOTE]
“Mud Boat” is kind of a dated term. If I know what it is, it HAS to be dated.