[QUOTE=maxxer;86495]I have a 500 ton master oceans currently. Do I need and can i submit for the 3000 ITC (unrestricted)?[/QUOTE]
A license that is not OSV restricted that is valid for 3000 GT Master 1600 GRT. So you would need the sea time/tonnage to upgrade to Master 1600 GRT.
The reason for the OSV restricted license being 500 GRT/3000 GT is that until recently, OSVs were limited by law to 500 GRT, but 6000 GT. So OSVs that what would be over 500 GRT were usually measured under GT only.
[QUOTE=jdcavo;86568]A license that is not OSV restricted that is valid for 3000 GT Master 1600 GRT. So you would need the sea time/tonnage to upgrade to Master 1600 GRT.
The reason for the OSV restricted license being 500 GRT/3000 GT is that until recently, OSVs were limited by law to 500 GRT, but 6000 GT. So OSVs that what would be over 500 GRT were usually measured under GT only.[/QUOTE]
And the most recent…
SEC. 617. OFFSHORE SUPPLY VESSELS.
(a) Removal of Tonnage Limits-
(1) DEFINITION-
(A) IN GENERAL- Section 2101(19) of title 46, United States Code, is amended by striking ‘of more than 15 gross tons but less than 500 gross tons as measured under section 14502 of this title, or an alternate tonnage measured under section 14302 of this title as prescribed by the Secretary under section 14104 of this title’.
(B) EXEMPTION- Section 5209(b)(1) of the Oceans Act of 1992 (Public Law 102-587; 46 U.S.C. 2101 note) is amended by striking ‘vessel.’ and inserting ‘vessel of less than 500 gross tons as measured under section 14502, or an alternate tonnage measured under section 14302 of such title as prescribed by the Secretary under section 14104 of such title.’.
(2) APPLICATION- Section 3702(b) of title 46, United States Code, is amended by striking paragraph (1) and redesignating paragraphs (2) and (3) as paragraphs (1) and (2), respectively.
(b) Scale of Employment: Able Seamen- Section 7312(d) of title 46, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
‘(d) Individuals qualified as able seamen--offshore. supply vessel under section 7310 of this title may constitute all of the able seamen required on board a vessel of less than 500 gross tons as measured under section 14502 of this title or 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of this title engaged in support of exploration, exploitation, or production of offshore mineral or energy resources. Individuals qualified as able seamen--limited under section 7308 of this title may constitute all of the able seamen required on board a vessel of at least 500 gross tons as measured under section 14502 of this title or 6,000 gross tons as measured under section as measured under section 14302 of this title as prescribed by the Secretary under section 14104 of this title engaged in support of exploration, exploitation, or production of offshore mineral or energy resources.’.
(c) Minimum Number of Licensed Individuals- Section 8301(b) of title 46, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
‘(b)(1) An offshore supply vessel of less than 500 gross tons as measured under section 14502 of this title or 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of this title on a voyage of less than 600 miles shall have a licensed mate. If the vessel is on a voyage of at least 600 miles, however, the vessel shall have 2 licensed mates.
‘(2) An offshore supply vessel of at least 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of this title on a voyage of less than 600 miles shall have at least two licensed mates, provided the offshore supply vessel meets the requirements of section 8104(g)(2). An offshore supply vessel of at least 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of this title on a voyage of at least 600 miles shall have three licensed mates.
‘(3) An offshore supply vessel of more than 200 gross tons as measured under section 14502 of this title, or an alternate tonnage measured under section 14302 of this title as prescribed by the Secretary under section 14104 of this title, may not be operated without a licensed engineer.’.
(d) Watches- Section 8104(g) of title 46, United States Code, is amended--
(1) by inserting ‘(1)’ after ‘(g)’; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
‘(2) Paragraph (1) applies to an offshore supply vessel of at least 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of this title if the individuals engaged on the vessel are in compliance with hours of service requirements (including recording and recordkeeping of that service) as prescribed by the Secretary.’.
(e) Oil Fuel Tank Protection-
(1) APPLICATION- An offshore supply vessel of at least 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of title 46, United States Code, that is constructed under a contract entered into after the date of enactment of this Act, or that is delivered after August 1, 2010, with an aggregate capacity of 600 cubic meters or more of oil fuel, shall comply with the requirements of Regulation 12A under Annex I to the Protocol of 1978 relating to the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution from Ships, 1973, entitled Oil Fuel Tank Protection, regardless of whether such vessel is engaged in the coastwise trade or on an international voyage.
(2) DEFINITION- In this subsection the term ‘oil fuel’ means any oil used as fuel in connection with the propulsion and auxiliary machinery of the vessel in which such oil is carried.
(f) Regulations-
(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than January 1, 2012, the Secretary of the department in which the Coast Guard is operating shall promulgate regulations to implement the amendments and authorities enacted by this section for offshore supply vessels of at least 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of title 46, United States Code, and to ensure the safe carriage of oil, hazardous substances, and individuals in addition to the crew on such vessels. The final rule issued pursuant to such rulemaking may supersede the interim final rule promulgated under paragraph (2) of this subsection. In promulgating regulations under this subsection, the Secretary shall take into consideration the characteristics of offshore supply vessels, their methods of operation, and their service in support of exploration, exploitation, or production of offshore mineral or energy resources.
(2) INTERIM FINAL RULE AUTHORITY- As soon as is practicable and without regard to the provisions of chapters 5 and 6 of title 5, United States Code, the Secretary shall issue an interim final rule as a temporary regulation implementing this section (including the amendments made by this section) for offshore supply vessels of at least 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of title 46, United States Code, and to ensure the safe carriage of oil, hazardous substances, and individuals in addition to the crew on such vessels.
(3) INTERIM PERIOD- After the effective date of this Act, prior to the effective date of the regulations prescribed by paragraph (2) of this subsection, and without regard to the provisions of chapters 5 and 6 of title 5, United States Code, and the offshore supply vessel tonnage limits of applicable regulations and policy guidance promulgated prior to the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the department in which the Coast Guard is operating may--
(A) issue a certificate of inspection under section 3309 of title 46, United States Code, to an offshore supply vessel of at least 6,000 gross tons as measured under section 14302 of that title if the Secretary determines that such vessel’s arrangements and equipment meet the current Coast Guard requirements for certification as a cargo and miscellaneous vessel;
(B) authorize a master, mate, or engineer who possesses an ocean or near coastal license and endorsement under part 11 of subchapter B of title 46, Code of Federal Regulations, (or any successor regulation) that qualifies the licensed officer for service on offshore supply vessels of at least 3,000 gross tons but less than 6,000 gross tons, as measured under section 14302 of title 46, United States Code, to operate offshore supply vessels of at least 6,000 gross tons, as measured under such section; and
(C) authorize any such master, mate, or engineer who also possesses an ocean or near coastal license and endorsement under such part that qualifies the licensed officer for service on non trade-restricted vessels of at least 1,600 gross tons but less than 3,000 gross tons, as measured under such section, to increase the tonnage limitation of such license and endorsement under section 402(c) of such part, using service on vessels certificated under both subchapters I and L of such title and measured only under such section, except that such tonnage limitation shall not exceed 10,000 gross tons as measured under such section.[QUOTE=anchorman;86530]Well you suck, because I know damn well (if you would have left it alone) that someone would have thought I was serious … and start reading the Geneva Convention just to prove me wrong. Thanks![/QUOTE]
I was about to say you have way too much time on your hands if you are now reading the freaking Geneva convention
I would do the third mate assessments And forget about limited tonnage all together
[QUOTE=chaos;86649]I would do the third mate assessments And forget about limited tonnage all together[/QUOTE]
I would go to college and forget those assessments all together. Of course, neither of us did what we just said.
I would think the answer would be right on your license. Does it state an ITC tonnage? What does the STCW portion say exactly? If your license states an ITC tonnage over the ITC tonnage of your vessel then you can sail internationally on it…
Policy letter 11-12 sets forth appropriate itc tonnage for limited mates and is available from the nmc web site. It might apply to your 500 Master. I hust used it to add 4000 itc to my 2000 gt 3rd