I read the negativity in his posts. He’s been giving the “heads up” for over a year now. Prior to that he spent two years giving the “heads up” they were fools to work down here. He’s getting off on this I know he is don’t let him fool you. Having contingencies in place is a no brainer for every job. Any old salt on any vessel will tell you to make a plan B before you get yourself comfortable. He posts articles and info that most of us in this business read on a daily basis. We are down here living it everyday he’s not giving a “heads up” to any of us. All we have to do is look around as friends and coworkers get laid off or quit for another job. He’s trolling us plain and simple nothing more to it.
[QUOTE=Jetryder223;175312]I don’t read that level of negativity in c.capts posts.
What I read is a “heads up” that things are likely to get worse before they get better. That and the sound recommendation that all mariners should have contingencies in place should this shit storm affect them personally.[/QUOTE]
You’re right as of lately. Few months ago he was still bloviating about it.
As far as being affected personally (this would fit in better in the offshore oil industry has died thread, but we all know what happened with that!)I was working for a GOM company, but not in the GOM. I wasn’t making the wages like those guys, because their reasoning was the boat I was on got a lesser day rate, different market and all that blah blah blah. It used to piss me off. One case was when I was doing leadership management back in july and I met a hornbeck chief in my class. We were talking money and when I told him what I made he said 'I was making those wages back in 2005. LOL!" I learned to accept it, and looked at the positives. My company had the contract my boat was on for over 20 years. So I saw stability and said that’s more important. The customer we were working for kept doing their thing, no matter what the price per barrel was.
To make a long story short, I saw the writing on the wall and got lucky. I left before I was going to get laid off. My old rig is going off contract mid january and my old shipmates are really worried as one can imagine, because its not like they need people on the GOM boats right now! I’m making the same day rate, but I’ve lost a substantial amount because I’m on an equal time rotation now. So anyway, I feel blessed because one of my worse nightmares would be to be laid off, especially during the holidays. The lesson I learned is we are all expendable and nothing is forever.
[QUOTE=Jetryder223;175334]What exactly would you like to see in a better deal from the owners? Please elucidate.[/QUOTE]
you’ve got to be kidding…right?
if not then what I believe the pawns need a contract of employment which
one: provides the terms of who is laid off when layoffs must happen so that Jeaukx cannot decide on whether someone with less time employed in a company stays who is a favored Bayoo boy over someone from outside the south
two: severance pay for those who are laid off (3months pay minimum for anyone sent packing and then another month of pay for every 2 years of employment with that company)
three: for those who remain, a clear formula agreed to with labor for who take demotions to lower positions or pay reductions tied to certain metrics like the price of crude over a year period.
four: a pension plan or at least 401K matching contributions that cannot be rescinded and taken back on the Bawss’s whim
now how is such a contract between Bawss and Pawn achieved you ask? do you really need to ask?
[QUOTE=Fraqrat;175338]He’s trolling us plain and simple nothing more to it.[/QUOTE]
NAW! This is my kind of trolling
FISH ON!
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[QUOTE=Ctony;175340]You’re right as of lately. Few months ago he was still bloviating about it.[/QUOTE]
thank you for that
So it seems you are in favor of industry wide unionization and collective bargaining?
Never been a fan of unions.
[QUOTE=Jetryder223;175343]Never been a fan of unions.[/QUOTE]
I’m the same way, but it’s the unions themselves I dislike, not the idea of organized labor.
[QUOTE=Capt. Phoenix;175344]I’m the same way, but it’s the unions themselves I dislike, not the idea of organized labor.[/QUOTE]
that is the sad reality that has killed collective bargaining and labor organization in the USA. Trade unions are far less corrupt in Canada and Europe and as a result are stronger and have a far greater percentage of the total labor force they represent.
The concept of organized labor is great but in our country the practice sucks!
who will you call when Uncle Sam only pays you half of what he should on your next check?
[QUOTE=Fraqrat;175339]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_4dFDBYWuTc[/QUOTE]
that is my first thought but I don’t get it…you follow my lead. I become General Jack D. Ripper and you become Group Captain Mandrake
or I become McCluskey and you become Sollozzo
[QUOTE=z-drive;175347]who will you call when Uncle Sam only pays you half of what he should on your next check?[/QUOTE]
My chain of command up to State Representative.
If this gig with MSC no longer supports me, I’ll put on my big boy pants and seek employment elsewhere.
Damn that can’t be true.
[QUOTE=DeckApe;175373]Damn that can’t be true.[/QUOTE]
Confirmed.
This is much worst than I imagined. Domestic energy production is on life support. Will remain so for the foreseeable future.
so you’d bypass your union representation?
Now in the $34 trading range. Looks like the bleeding has slowed to a buck a week.
I like it, in 35 weeks we will be getting paid to burn oil rather than the opposite. Tough economics.
Does that mean we will be able to starting trolling for tuna in the OSVs and Crewboats(!) since we won’t be making runs for the drilling rigs? Diesel and engine oil will essentially be free then, we can just cruise around the gulf and burn a bunch of oil and then hopefully we will use up a lot on our fishing trips and create more demand and then the trading price will rise…yayyyyyy!!! Lol
In the short-medium term the only thing that will drive up the oil price is if The Donald gets elected and rubs the House of Saud the wrong way. Or if there is an “arab spring” in Saudi, if enough of their rebels can avoid getting crucified and/or having their heads chopped off before they can gain some meaningful ground.
you do realize that the day after the Congress lifted the ban on exporting US produced crude the benchmark West Texas Intermediate price went up three bucks a barrel?
Merry Christmas to Conoco Phillips
There is talk that even with Iran back in the game, prices will recover somewhat by the end of '16.
There is a lot of inventory sitting around right now.