Dear Mr. Awful, I do use oil, I’m not happy bout it, and I try hard to minimize that use. I do use electricity, but I make more than I use. I actually feel a little sorry for the grid when I unplug from it. I do work in the Maritime industry, I cut my teeth running a harbor tug with a pair of Cat D398’s. Twisting and walking full and full, blackstacking 16" pipes still gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. My mantra was “Black Smoke, White Water”. I would argue that it is I with the broader perspective. Dear Mr. Zdrive. Yes, I can post without using any oil. I’m doing it now. What is nonsensical to you does not invalidate the premise. Dear Mr CCaptain. I really want to build a shitpile generator but my honey wouldn’t hear of it. Dear Mr Awful, (again). I apologize for derailing the thread. Maybe I’ll try to start another