An anchored semi?
All DP rigs
Wow. Hard to believe that would/could happen. I am putting two and two together. There has certainly been a sea-change since.
Flag states allowed it so it happened for a long timeā¦
The problem was those first group of Captains had zero drilling experience and no DP tickets.
The second problem that surfaced was would the USCG allow a deck officer to be created on a semiā¦whole career and you might have 10 miles under your beltā¦
Maybe not 10 miles but for sure many were created with a one transit voyage from Singapore or Korea to the US GOM with few port entries or dockings involved, I was on a drillship where the captain asked for 4 tugs to assist docking in Singaporeās Sembawang. He had never docked a ship before, only small OSV sized vessels. The ordeal took hours.
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No MPA pilot and Dockmaster to assist him?
Pilotage is compulsory in Singapore, unless the Master has an exemption, which is only given to those who frequently call at Singapore and has passed a test.
Sembawang Shipyard have Dockmasters at all their yards in Singapore.
PS> Powerabout is talking about Semi-submersibles, not Drillships.
Most Semisubs built in S.Korea or Sāpore are now carried on HLVs for the voyage to GoM.
BTW; some make the first leg from S.Korea to Singapore for final outfitting and from a dischage port in the Caribbean to GoM with tug assistance
(Thrusters are removed for berthing in Sāpore and for HLV transport)
(Nominally) US company owned rigs but not US flagged?
Which flag state?
dp semis typically cant get to a dock in Singapore as too shallow
Typically marshall Islands, they allow liberian tickets too along with dp semiās with just about no licensed crew.
As I said, custom made rules for US owned semiās
It was only the USCG that forced the issue of foreign flag DP semis in the gom having a captain
Yes that is correct.
That is why the thrusters are removed before berthing.
Typically done at Raffles Reserve Anchorage for Semisub rigs (and Drillships) gong alongside at Jurong yards and Changi Special Anchorage, if going to Sembawang.
I have attended several such operations over the years, incl. loadout of large Semies on HLVs.
last ones I have seen were tuas where the new yards are including my old rig
So, are licensed engineers, going to make good money on Drillships anytime soon?
Are 3ae going to make more than gas station workers?
Are 1ae and Chiefs going to make more than a gas station manager?
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Duh, Ya think?
Just wait. Heāll post the Buccees sign again.
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$100,000+ for a 3AE working 6 months a year is available on drillships. I have no idea what a gas station worker makes but itās probably less than that and they probably work more than 6 months a year.
The problem for rig owners is when they employ Americans they know they all have to pay tax regardless of where the rig is, where as the foreigner standing alongside most likely doesnāt.
I do agree with everyone the job of an Eng on a rig should be the highest in the industry as its lots more work and with the day rate up for grabs is a larger responsibility not to mention the vessels cost more.
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Iām aware of this. Also employers have to pay for medical benefits which in other countries is paid for with the payroll tax. There are many reasons not to hire US mariners if possible
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The comparison is to American union shipping jobs. A Washington state ferry guy can make the same (or more) and potentially sleep in his own bed during his 2 weeks on, and definitely sleep in his own bed on his 2 weeks off.
I know this is an old thread.
Poweraboutā¦ I have been reading your posts and I have to say that almost every single thing you said is wrong. Iām not going to go through it for you but I spent four years as 1A/E and four years as C/E on a 6th Gen HHI Ultra Deep water drillship and NOTHING you said was accurate.
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Drillship has different rules than a dp semi.
I worked in a company that had both
The thread is about drillships yes I created a thread drift to semiās
Do you agree with the original poster?
I agree with the premise that they cannot keep engineers but IN MY EXPERIENCE for none of the reasons in the OPs initial post.
I disagree with the claim the Second Engineers cannot get time on their licenses to sit for CE. Second Engineer is the literal equivalent to a National First Assistant Engineer and the USCG knows this. Those guys didnāt talk to the right people to resolve the issue.
I also disagree with his assessment of the lack of maintenance planning due to WSOG restrictions. The Well Specific Operating Guidelines are what they are and while they may prohibit taking equipment out of standby for Simultaneous Operations, Non-shareables or any other operation (they vary from well to well, hence WELL SPECIFIC) they are the reason his maintenance MUST be planned. We overhauled a generator that ate an oil pump and it was out of service for 54 days and we were on a well with a split buss the entire time. That means zero redundancy for a third of the plant. We also had the crew rebuild an 11KV drilling transformer, changed a propeller seal or any number of things.Thatās what DP BLUE is for.
We were always manned in the ECR with a licensed officer. So I disagree with his statement about that as well.
So to answer your question. No. I disagree with everything he said. I get his point. He is incorrect in my opinion but with no malice.
You? Not so much.
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