Not counting KP. And I am assuming Great Lakes is the lowest. But but for someone who wants that environment what are the rest like?
If you want a military style school, why not apply to one of the military academies?
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If that is what they “want”, I feel they will be disappointed once they graduate and sign aboard their first job.
Then again, for those zero-dark 30 arrivals I try to wear my cleanest dirty shirt…the joy of ATB’s and a one man wheelhouse.
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That would be SUNY maritime or Texas A&M. But really if you want military style go to KP.
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If you want to go to a Military College, then consider either Norwich University or Virginia Military Institute. Both are excellent, highly reputable schools. If your want to be trained for a maritime career, in the private sector, then any of the state maritime academies would serve you very well. The state maritime academies are not there for the purpose of training officers for the uniformed services. I truly think you’d be happier at an actual military school, if that’s your objective.
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The Citadel sounds right up your alley
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Kids want to also have option to do NROTC and get licensed.
Actually a bunch have ROTC. I looked and Mass has Army ROTC.
Anyone can be an overachieving reg-head at any school… they have those types everywhere.
But if it’s an efficient regiment that is taken seriously, or allowed to run as a regiment then it always appeared to me that Mass Maritime has that covered better than anyone.
SUNY is definitely low on that list… their braindead dean of admissions supposedly walks around during his inexplicable abundance of free time and personally reprimands upperclassmen for enforcing rules and regs on the 4th class. Place is a circus missing the music and pie fights.
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Ughhhh. I never thought I’d see TMA rated as most military. This is a disaster. They’ve got a new commandant though, so hopefully they’ll get back to teaching seamanship instead of how to be good little Nazis.
If you really want to work your ass off, and be super military, go to one of the state maritime academies, elect to go NROTC, (Not just SSO) and choose Maritime Transportation as your major. You’ll be trained to be a merchant marine officer but also be required to fulfill all the NROTC classes and requirements and be subject to their increase regimental discipline. You’ll commission active duty Navy or Marines when you graduate, and have your degree and unlimited license. Almost nobody goes that route because it’s the hardest and also somewhat counter intuitive.
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While on football recruiting trips with my son during senior year, we were invited to a camp at Navy and VMI. The former head coach at Suny was scouting there, I noticed the maritime logo on his hat and we had a brief chat . He did say quite a few of their recruits were in ROTC program , and that helped with their tuition. While at VMI, quite a few grants were available and more than a few were ROTC also. One of my son’s wrestling team guys got a nice scholarship from USMC to attend Va-Tech as he was a stellar student and ROTC during High School… He is now an officer in the USMC. Son was nominated to KP, West Point, and Navy. KP made the first offer and he had more choices which way to go. Service or commercial by attending there . Some may have heartburn over the options there, we sure didn’t.
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Imagine Norwich does that too.
At Maine Maritime back in the 2000’s: Enroll in NROTC and keep your GPA above 3.0 and they usually offered you a full ride after your first year. This would lock you in for an active duty commission upon graduation and a commitment of 4-8 years depending on your path.
Also wondering if Mass Maritime offers a similar program? Visited other D3 schools that offered academic scholarships, but weren’t Maritime schools. Maine, Norwich, USCG, and KP play in the same football league “NEWMAC” all D3. USCG Academy does not require a congressional nomination, ain’t easy to get into. KP and USCG will have the lowest acceptance rates, both require a commitment . ROTC in High School help your application, grades will matter most. No tuition at KP or USCG , both are regimented and darn good schools. Not sure if the poster wants that, or avoid that.
Not sure having ROTC or NROTC makes a school more military, U.C. Berkeley has both
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Poster was asking specifically about Maritime Academy schools. ROTC is widely available throughout the country, and is quite a bit of help for a student who wants to make that commitment . The schools I mentioned are definitely Maritime related. Mass,Maine,KP, Suny. Can’t speak for Cal or Texas as far as “Most like a Military school”. More familiar with the East Coast schools. Norwich is definitely military, but not so much maritime related, nor is VMI.
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The OP wasn’t asking about ROTC or NROTC he asked which maritime school was the most military, people began offering examples of schools like VMI, Citadal, Norwich, ect none of which is a maritime school, then people began adding examples of schools with ROTC/NROTC.
I simply pointed out that merely having such programs does not make a school military.
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You can be a regimental hardo at any academy. In my experience at Mass, the SSO Navy kids acted like it was the Naval Academy. “Higher ranking” regi’s acted the same. The commandant loves it. Both him and the SSO CO want it to be a mini Annapolis. Sucks if you just want to get a license and leave. Great if you wanna be a hardo dickhead and make life more difficult than it needs to be. Wanna be a hardo regi? Mass is the place.
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Well said Beer Captain, the license and degree was the goal at KP… Son was not into all that hardo stuff, but did pick up more leadership skills in spite off all that stuff. Laid low and just smiled when the “Hardo” barking started at the appropriate times. He was just glad to play football and beat Coast Guard 3 of 4 years. The rivalry is quite intense.