What is wrong with the Russian military? - Ukraine

“Make Russia Great Again” (MRGA for short)
Sounds familiar???

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Putin’s statements yesterday threatening the use of nuclear weapons is no surprise but his call for the mobilization of civilians leads to an increase in protests and arrests. Shades of what led the US to withdraw from Vietnam don’t bode well for him but he continues to double down.

Last nights nightly news had clips of the Russian protests & full flights of families & abled body men out of there. Then it dawned on me the only thing scarier than a nuclear arsenal controlled by a power hungry narcissist like Putin is to have 3 or 4 smaller nuclear arsenals controlled by a handfull of warlords if Putin dies or if Russia falls into a civil war?

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Not enough soldiers volunteering…

Men stampeding to pay $9,000 for a one-way ticket out of the country…

Over a 1,000 people arrested in one night in protests against the war…

Why the manly, he-men Russians must all be… all be… WOKE!

We have those same problems with our military who is experiencing the biggest recruitment short fall in decade. The Army expecting to be short by 30,000 for next year. During OIF the military had a program called stop-loss whereby they extended soldiers contracts (involuntary) to retain them.

Been reading that it’s 300,000 now with a possible target of one million by spring with each soldier receiving contract pay ($3500/month). They don’t expect the soldiers to be available till March.

Ah…but the thread is about the Russian military, isn’t it? Not ours. We aren’t at war.

But the Russians are. We aren’t fighting for “national survival” against hordes of Jewish “Nazis”, as Putin says he is. In those circumstances, what does it say about Russian men bolting for the exits?

It says not even they believe what he says. So why should anyone else?

Putin is simply a despotic Stalin wannabe that desires to expand Russia west to New York and east to California.

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Pointing out that the lack of volunteers for a war is not out of the ordinary, nor is it indicative of the status of forces as a whole. If it was it would be an equal indictment of our Armed Forces.

We were at war when our military used stop loss, that didn’t make them weak.

True. And when it happened in the Iraq War the USA came up with a great solution: We paid both sides in the civil war to stop fighting, fixed a lot of the stuff we broke, and we withdrew.

My solution for Putin: have Russia withdraw behind the border, pay the Ukrainians not to string up the quislings in their territory, and give them money to rebuild their country.

Hey, it worked once…

They did, it was called The Minsk Agreements mediated by France and Germany it ended the first war in 2015. Ukraine abandoned it so here we are.

From Wikipedia, re: Minsk Agreements:

The agreement failed to stop fighting,[5] and was thus followed with a revised and updated agreement, Minsk II , which was signed on 12 February 2015.[6] This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement’s signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement’s provisions were never fully implemented.

The Minsk agreement, which is quite short to read, was nothing but a ceasefire agreement. No mention of rebuilding. No cash payments. Not that I expect Russia to pay anything.

It never ended the fighting because the Ukrainian government kept shelling in the Donbas.

Be careful what You wish for.

An interesting comment from another " Russian" spy and/or “troll” who defies notorious warmongers.

(104) Tucker Carlson: This is insane - YouTube

Here are full original texts of Minsk I,II agreements for all to read and draw their own conclusions not disturbed by warmongering wokemons.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xJ3xpyIM4bqDIpSS84KCot2YUdVyxbfP?usp=sharing

Since the last POTUS speech in the UN i have started drilling " duck and cover" techniques.
Think about it

The Russian peole I know in Russia (Moscow) do not feel an existential threat from the West, but do feel a real threat from Putin.
and they are officers.

Carlson is not a spy or a troll. He’s a clown, and no reasonable person would take what he says seriously.

Who says so? Tucker Carlson. His lawyers stood up in front of a federal judge in 2020 and said no “reasonable viewer” takes the primetime host seriously. So why are you?

Carlson is a dealer pimping outrage meth to junkies so addicted they don’t care when he tells them they’re crazy.

So far in 24-hours you’ve cited as your experts a clown, a fictional movie hero, and a cyborg. Hopefully, you’re just getting started. Can’t wait for the next one!

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Those poor Russians, they didn’t WANT to run around torturing and killing, the Ukrainians made them do it.
This is quintessential wife-beater logic, “Look what you made me do” .

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