This would be in the accommodation spaces passageways which is the new requirement.
It’s not clear what you mean by “in the accommodations” here, do you mean the staterooms which are also a part of the accommodation spaces?
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I disagree. I think it’s a good solution and it’s already been implemented by larger companies for years.
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There aren’t any cameras going inside staterooms or in your head. It’s literally passageways. A knee jerk reaction that took years and years of assault to actually make a change??
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A officer’s license does not stop women from being harassed or assaulted onboard. Unlicensed, officers, and cadets would bennefit from the added security, its not just cadets.
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The latest high profile case involved a 1AE and a Capt. why wouldn’t they get the same protection via pway cameras as cadets? It’s not like female cadets are the only victims here.
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Treating the cadets like lepers does’t sound like a good work environment to say the least. Don’t see how putting video cameras exclusively outside the cadet’s rooms is going to improve that situation.
I think what he’s saying is that cadets are being “handled with kid gloves” these days, both male and female. I’m probably one of the more progressive folks on my ship and even I am nervy about saying anything that can be taken out of context the wrong way.
I’m sure I probably come across a lot colder than I intend because of it, but I’d rather that be what HR calls me about than “____ feels uncomfortable with what you said to them about magnetic compass deviation when they were working on their sea project”
Personally, I think these cameras in the passage ways (and the master key control regs) are a good thing. We’ll have to see how it shakes out though.
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Firm agreement here. The amount of nonsensical bullshit besides the intended SASH prevention these cameras will curtail is worth it entirely. Let us not forget that these are mostly privately owned vessels and this could have been done much sooner without anyone saying otherwise. Security cameras are not new on ships. Owners typically don’t want them because of the added cost to operate them. Now they don’t have an option and as far as I can tell, from a Captains perspective, I gain the possibility to have eye witness evidence of the goings on about the ship. The years of people having items stolen from their cabins, claims of all forms of harrassment, YOU NAME IT will be behind us. Well, not so much immediately behind us but certainly actionable with cause and enough of that will start to sink in over time.
Someone mentioned earlier that the laundry rooms should get them as well and that was an excellent point. The amount of creepy shit that goes on regarding laundry is problematic and despicable.
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I work for HOS and on my vessel the system was installed 3 weeks ago. Heard that almost all the fleet has installed this surveillance system. We are way ahead of the curb, that is fine with me.
One Maersk captain I sailed with had a hidden microphone on the bridge.
Sounds like a particular German captain on a K-class…
Might not require a hidden microphone, there are already some on the bridge, the ones for VDR.
You can’t easily access those recordings though, can you?
Not easily. Nor can you listen to a converstion live.
Not AFAIK. The VDR (Voyage Data Recorder) system however is essentialy a data network of connected devices. Data networks can be connected to other networks, like the ship’s computer network.
If the two networks are connected and the captain has the required software than it should be possible to use the VDR microphones to listen in to bridge conversations (or calls on the VHF) in real time.
Given how clunky most VDRs I’ve worked with have been, I think there is some requirement for them to be isolated from the ship’s network via airgap.
From a cyber security standpoint, it makes sense to keep the ship’s network away from the industrial control network. I can’t find the video now, but a group of cyber security nerds went on a cruise to test the network, luckily the network was isolated between the “hotel” network and industrial controls, but due to the load computer being plugged into a wall jack they were able to mess with the inputs to their loading program, showing tanks full or empty as they please. Not a huge impact but illustrates the importance of isolating industrial control systems, and a really really long winded way to say, I sure hope the VDR isn’t hooked to the captain’s computer.
I don’t recall what software we had but Furuno’s is called “Live Player V5”
“Live Player V5” allows monitoring and playback of collected data on a PC
That looks like a “head” to an otherwise headless system though, right? or is it actually on on a ship’s PC?
Not familiar with Furuno’s system could be a dedicated PC. The software that we had was on the PC in the captain’s office.
It’s possible it’s one of a kind but it seems more likely that was what the Maersk captain was using rather than installing his own system.
I don’t think that there would be anything to gain by listening to conversations on the bridge but it’s definitely doable.