[QUOTE=cappy208;58392]I suspect the unsaid portion of your post is that you are ‘tired’ of hiring, training, getting them up to speed, then they quit. making you rehire to try it again.
Although we may be thinking in different terms, I believe the issue is prevalent at many companies who are stuck in a ‘old fashioned’ mariner mentality. If I were a betting man, I would suspect you were part of management at a tug company, who is sick and tired of hiring people who just want to call for shoreside help to replace a starter on a Cat! (for example!)
My office used say the same thing ALL the time. This is still said occasionally as a engineer is determined to be an ‘Oil change engineer’ as opposed to being an actual competent seagoing troubleshooter, responsible ‘all around repair’ engineer, and Watchstander.
As a corporate culture the management ashore has had to rethink their position on hiring, promotion and licenses. A while ago, almost every engineer at the company I work for was unlicensed. I am talking between 30 and 40 engineers! About half were/are competent mechanics, who have an interest in doing the ‘good’ job that is expected. Unfortunately it has taken about 10 years to weed out the bums. Humorously, The last two took care of themselves, when they got DUI’s, and somehow thought they would be able to get their MMD’s back without a background check (since they were NOT officers, but lowly OS’s!!
Anyway, At least at my company the management had to come to the realization that three things needed to change when considering a new hire:
- A License. (Not a QMED, or an ‘experienced’ guy who just hasn’t gotten around to ‘get’ a license.)
- Realizing that even though a huge majority of the companies vessels don’t require a license as engineer, they should hire them anyway! and
- they had to actually PAY a living salary to attract competent help.
IMHO, there are PLENTY of experienced deck AND engine help ashore who can fill these openings. But I suspect there is more to your question that you can admit. My experience has told me that it is often not simply a one sided problem, but a two (or more) sided issue. Just my $.02 worth :-)[/QUOTE]
I know that when I worked for Crowley, their policy was to hire licensed engineers for their tugs, even though it was not required. I do believe that it paid off for them. That, and their boats were (are) well designed and simple. They also went out of their way to make sure that every tug of each class was identical. Some of us being a little creative would make certain changes to our boats, only to have to return them to their original condition once we arrived back at the main terminal. I know that we did use some shoreside vendors, but that was to mainly to make sure that all of the work that needed to be done could be in a two to three day turnaround. With the main engines, anytime that there were more than three power packs to change, we would call bring a vendor in. Three or less, the engineer was expected to do himself. All of the engineers also attended the EMD school in LaGrange, IL for training.
I also know that when I started working on an early ITB/ATB, the company that I worked for then (not Crowley) would hire “oil change” engineers. They didn’t last very long.