[QUOTE=Traitor Yankee;162913]Trash bags and duct tape?[/QUOTE]
Somebody needs to trashbag those “caretakers”! $30K a month they get for being PHUCKING PHOOLS!
[QUOTE=c.captain;162911]Wouldn’t there be a hideous bang cranking an engine filled with water?[/QUOTE]
My understanding is that the procedure is to do a blow-down while watching the open indicator cocks to see if any water gets blown out.
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;162915]My understanding is that the procedure is to do a blow-down while watching the open indicator cocks to see if any water gets blown out.[/QUOTE]
Which of course they PHAILED to do. Inspector Clouseau would have done a better job than these PHOOLS!
[QUOTE=c.captain;162917]Which of course they PHAILED to do. Inspector Clouseau would have done a better job than these PHOOLS![/QUOTE]
That a pre-lube and blow-down is normal procdure is just my experence in general. I don’t know what the case was in this instance.
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;162918]That a pre-lube and blow-down is normal procdure is just my experence in general. I don’t know what the case was in this instance.[/QUOTE]
Of course these engines should have been blown down or barrred over by hand before they were cranked! And to think not just one engine but THREE!
What kind of MORONS are we talking about here? I mean these people were astronomically STOOPID!
[QUOTE=c.captain;162919]Of course these engines should have been blown down or barrred over by hand before they were cranked! And to think not just one engine but THREE!
What kind of MORONS are we talking about here? I mean these people were astronomically STOOPID![/QUOTE]
Without knowing the details…Were the people involved qualified marine engineers with specific instructions or did someone just send some flunkeys down to start the engines without proper instruction? It’s possible that the people in charge of looking after this boat have no more understanding then Joe Schmoe with a diesel VW.
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;162924]Without knowing the details…Were the people involved qualified marine engineers with specific instructions or did someone just send some flunkeys down to start the engines without proper instruction? It’s possible that the people in charge of looking after this boat have no more understanding then Joe Schmoe with a diesel VW.[/QUOTE]
Then the people in charge are the PHUCKING PHOOLS becausee someone has to be one here
What kind of engines is she equipped with?
I thought PNW/Alaska engineers were bet…oh never mind forgot about the ferry fiascos…
[QUOTE=Fraqrat;162936]What kind of engines is she equipped with?
I thought PNW/Alaska engineers were bet…oh never mind forgot about the ferry fiascos…[/QUOTE]
It has four MTU 12 V - 4000 derated from 2700 HP to 2435 HP.
The boat is owned by the Matanuska-Susitna Borough, the equlivent of a parish. As far as I know they never had an organizaion to run it. The plans to run it fell through. I don’t know but it might have been a couple guys that worked at the motor pool taking care of it.
It not owned or operated by the AMHS.
yes, those guys and Washington state ferry engineers are allegedly exempt.
This is like a prime example of why some people can’t have nice things. At this point I could go up there and make an even trade for a container of long johns and hot chocolate for the damn thing. I’m surprised Shell Hasn’t paid them a billion dollars for it. It’s a perfect fit for their Chukchi Battle Group.
[QUOTE=z-drive;162938]yes, those guys and Washington state ferry engineers are allegedly exempt.[/QUOTE]
Yeah! Exempt from having working brains except the brains in their assed!
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[QUOTE=Fraqrat;162939]This is like a prime example of why some people can’t have nice things. At this point I could go up there and make an even trade for a container of long johns and hot chocolate for the damn thing. I’m surprised Shell Hasn’t paid them a billion dollars for it. It’s a perfect fit for their Chukchi Battle Group.[/QUOTE]
You might scoff but I think that hull form would make into a very efficient skimmer but where to store the skimmed oil?
Shell needs a PR win they should pay fair market value to the township for it. Use a local shipyard for repairs and some alterations, everyone wins. They could use it to land on beaches for clean up or as a floating seal or walrus rescue center.
Or maybe Greenpeace can use it as a Forward Underway Protester Kayak Deployment Vessel.
I still don’t understand why they advertise that vessel as an icebreaking ferry.
[QUOTE=Tups;162945]I still don’t understand why they advertise that vessel as an icebreaking ferry.[/QUOTE]
Isn’t steaming through grease ice “icebreaking”?
NOTE:
DESIGN:
GENERAL DESCRIPTION: (source: M/V Susitna Craft Operating Manual)
This vessel is a U.S. Navy sponsored, Lockheed design, very high-tech, state-of-the art steel welded vessel. [B]This design is a 50% scale model of a proposed USN high-tech amphibious landing craft. [/B]It has a combination of operating features including, high speed catamaran ferry, shallow draft and beach-able ferry/cargo transport, SWATH (small water-plane area twin hull) ship, and has ice operations certification. ABS certification is +A1, (E) HSC, Ro-Ro Passenger Craft. It is certified to operate in up to sea-state 3 (Pierson-Moskowitz scale), for Cook Inlet, Alaska. Note: this particular sea-state rating is rather conservative (this scale translates to 4’ seas). During sea-trials, it was reported by Captain Stormont that the vessel performed admirably in 8-10’ seas with 35 knots of wind. Further evaluation would be done as a part of the COI process.
[QUOTE=c.captain;162946]Isn’t steaming through grease ice “icebreaking”?[/QUOTE]
Last time I experienced something “steaming through grease ice” was when I was celebrating New Year somewhere above the 78th parallel. I came steaming from the sauna and, seeing myself as a real polar icebreaker, went straight into the grease ice -covered fjord carrying a rifle. When I walked back to the sauna with the rifle frozen into my hand and icicles hanging from my ass, I was wondering what I was doing in the north instead of, say, the Gulf of Mexico…
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;162918]That a pre-lube and blow-down is normal procdure is just my experence in general. I don’t know what the case was in this instance.[/QUOTE]
Those little engines don’t usually have a cylinder blowdown or vent valve, they don’t even have CHT or EGT sensors fitted in most cases. The MTU book just calls for covering the intake and exhaust when out of service longer than a week. The local geniuses were probably just shown how to start the engine from the local operating panel and that is that. Once you push the start button the sequence is pretty much automatic and with only a few cylinders filled with water the damage would be done before they even realised something was not right. They are just too stupid to even wonder what all the racket was from the first attempt and didn’t know enough to stop and think about it for a bit … maybe they did think about it but if it took 3 tries to figure out something was wrong after using up all their thinking power we have to wonder if those folks should even be allowed to get near machinery of any kind.
[QUOTE=Steamer;162978]Those little engines don’t usually have a cylinder blowdown or vent valve, they don’t even have CHT or EGT sensors fitted in most cases. The MTU book just calls for covering the intake and exhaust when out of service longer than a week. The local geniuses were probably just shown how to start the engine from the local operating panel and that is that. Once you push the start button the sequence is pretty much automatic and with only a few cylinders filled with water the damage would be done before they even realised something was not right. They are just too stupid to even wonder what all the racket was from the first attempt and didn’t know enough to stop and think about it for a bit … maybe they did think about it but if it took 3 tries to figure out something was wrong after using up all their thinking power we have to wonder if those folks should even be allowed to get near machinery of any kind.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, seems fucked up. This reminds me of one of my chief’s talking point or messages I hear a lot with the assistant engineers, particular a new third A/E when they answer alarms. First what is the problem and why is it occurring? Second when you take steps to correct the problem what do you [B][U]expect[/U][/B] to happen? If what is happening is not what you expect then you don’t understand the situation and you need to call someone to help.
In this case it was expected the engine would start and run but it didn’t. Time to stop and regroup cause you don’t know what is going on, you might be on thin ice and not know it.