[QUOTE=UnRepKing;44564]And that was just the OT rate…so they were still getting paid their base pay…so lets just call it an even $110/hr[/QUOTE]
It seems the T-AE, T-AKE, and T-AOE are where the money is at. By joining SRS would I secure a billet on one of those vessels?
I was trying to find the pay rates for haz locations, ammo loading, and any other additional money benifits but I could not find any scale. I found the east and west pay chart download on the MSC homepage and didn’t see the numbers for any extra pay. Is there a link or a place to see it on paper?
All these numbers are real, you can look them up. This is why I have always said that MSC is the #1 American shipping company to sail with. No other outfit can come close to the benifits you have as a CIVMAR.
I always challange folks to find a company with better pay and benifits. No one has ever mentioned anyone.
UnRepKing,
Thanks for the information. I find your posts positive and helpful, no bs here. I am looking forward to a new beginning with MSC. I have been selected to begin the process when I return from the SBX-1.
Can you break down where you get the 60, and 90 like the following so we can see how it adds up per hour, because the PDF explanation is a little confusing:
14 (base)
14 (hazard)
14 (explosive)
14 (sea)
No one is arguing with you son. But like I said before, there is fat times and lean times. Don’t count on OT. I spent 17 years at MSCLANT. I know of which I speak.
[QUOTE=UnRepKing;44493]Welcome to MSC…by far the best shipping company to work for in America.[/QUOTE]
I would NOT call MSC a shipping company. They are a part of the US Navy/Govt. and thus they are not in business to make money. If MSC wastes untold sums of taxpayer $, that is OK. They will just get more.
If a shipping company fails to turn a profit, guess what? They go out of business and everybody is on the beach looking for a job.
I am not knocking MSC and it’s mission, but to call it a shipping company, the same as APL, Maesrk, Crowley, Matson etc is a misnomer.
[QUOTE=SaltySailor;44796]I would NOT call MSC a shipping company. They are a part of the US Navy/Govt. and thus they are not in business to make money. If MSC wastes untold sums of taxpayer $, that is OK. They will just get more. [/QUOTE]
But they do have the operations mission of getting supplies from point A to point B on time, and everyone gets that.
MSC is NOT a shipping company - it is a govenment entity. Great job, pay and benefits (less vacation). Vacation was tough to get (going back over 10 years). I wanted to take a leave of absence to explore a shoreside gig, but was told “no deal.” That’s when I left. It’s a fun job and you go to great ports (and actually get to get off the ship, unlike my current gig as chief mate on a container ship where the farthest I go is the dock to get drafts). It’s not for everyone, but the money is good and it is a job. I’ve considered going back numerous times, but can’t get past the vacation issues.
Can you explain the time off more please. If a person works 4 months, can they get a month off? If so will they get a ship easily when they return? I have never gotten a clear answer on how people get time to go home or for how long is acceptable.
With hard to get vacation time, are you saying that if you become SRS certified you’ll essentially be enslaved until your MMC expire due to them saying you can’t take vacation time?
[QUOTE=uberTurtle;44979]MSC is NOT a shipping company - it is a govenment entity. Great job, pay and benefits (less vacation). Vacation was tough to get (going back over 10 years). I wanted to take a leave of absence to explore a shoreside gig, but was told “no deal.” That’s when I left. It’s a fun job and you go to great ports (and actually get to get off the ship, unlike my current gig as chief mate on a container ship where the farthest I go is the dock to get drafts). It’s not for everyone, but the money is good and it is a job. I’ve considered going back numerous times, but can’t get past the vacation issues.[/QUOTE]
I hear ya on that vacation thing…
I took several MSC courses at the MSC West Training Center and I heard the same thing from all the MSC folks, good pay etc, but when it comes to vacation, if there’s no relief, you can NOT go. Simple as that. Unless you QUIT. Engineering is the worst, never enough reliefs. One engineer was [I]bragging[/I] about how he went 18 months on-board ship without a relief…
I would take a [I]real[/I] shipping company [I]anyday[/I] over that. I like to have some time off to enjoy [I]my[/I] life.
The white list is in effect on my ship, as well as often enforced blackout periods, yes most banking sites work, but “every website except facebook and porn” is not true. Internet is about 1998 dial-up speed give or take and although I could send right away-it took 24 friggin days before I started receiving emails, some folks sooner some longer…And if you get off the ship in the city where the pool is located you receive jack-shit for travel pay home, and then when you go back to work you’ll pay to fly back to the pool…I’m just telling it like it is…
All sounds like a slice of heaven to the unemployed…unless of course, you are the Dude, or his Dudeness, or El Dude-O-Reno; if your not into the whole brevity thing.
[QUOTE=Jeffrox;45050]if you get off the ship in the city where the pool is located you receive jack-shit for travel pay home, and then when you go back to work you’ll pay to fly back to the pool.[/QUOTE]
That’s OK, I’ll claim over $500 on travel expenses for mileage, since it’s over 1000 miles to either pool, which works out for a Midwestern.
[QUOTE=Q695;44688]Can you break down where you get the 60, and 90 like the following so we can see how it adds up per hour, because the PDF explanation is a little confusing:
14 (base)
14 (hazard)
14 (explosive)
14 (sea)
56 (total)[/QUOTE]
I can’t really break it down to well. Those $$$ amounts come straight from DHAMS. That is the computer program we use to put in overtime. The rates change based on what type of ship you are one. For example, your pay on an AKE will be much different than if you are on a ATF (tug). However, folks on the tugs say they get a lot of OT, so maybe it all balances out. I have never sailed on the ATF or ARS class though.
[QUOTE=Jeffrox;45050]The white list is in effect on my ship, as well as often enforced blackout periods, yes most banking sites work, but “every website except facebook and porn” is not true. Internet is about 1998 dial-up speed give or take and although I could send right away-it took 24 friggin days before I started receiving emails, some folks sooner some longer…And if you get off the ship in the city where the pool is located you receive jack-shit for travel pay home, and then when you go back to work you’ll pay to fly back to the pool…I’m just telling it like it is…[/QUOTE]
I suppose there are horror stories everywhere. I have never had any real problems with either internet or the e-mail. Internet is slow, you just learn to live with it. These are tough times and MSC $$$ is good, so I would not base a decision to work here on the speed of the internet. Internet is a nice perk/privledge, just like the rides to the NEX and free work boots.
[QUOTE=Q695;45030]With hard to get vacation time, are you saying that if you become SRS certified you’ll essentially be enslaved until your MMC expire due to them saying you can’t take vacation time?[/QUOTE]
I am a bit relectant to reccomend becomming SRS. You are right, it can be very tough to get a relief. If you have a license then once you are a 2nd Mate or 2nd Engineer you have to quit the program. But if you are young and in good shape, then go for it. The extra $$$ adds up. Most ships are good about paying the swimmers. Some Chief Mates may try to knock the pay down, but it is right there in the CMPI, so let the pay disputes fly. I have found that swimmers typically win thier pay disputes when it comes down to that.