Tanker Fire in Gulf of Oman

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When it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, swims like a duck, the odds are pretty good it’s a duck.

When the dog is swinging side to side from a wildly wagging tail, chances are pretty good the tail is wagging the dog.

When the Cheeto is under pressure he and those who stand to benefit from his moronic actions dream up another crisis only he protect us from … sure looks like ducks and a dogs to me.

Nice try though but it’ll take a lot more than a red hat and your jingo blinders to change history.

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This Gulf of Tonkin shit is kind of mind boggling. Then after all what Eisenhower said in his farewell address to the nation were profetic words and based on intimate inside knowledge. He knew and understood who really pulled the strings in the country. In a way he was giving the nation a warning shot across the bow. I must say that my mind is shifting in the case we have at hand now…

Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.

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The military industrial complex has far reaching repercussions and affect the lives of average Americans whether they notice it or not.
5 years ago, over 5 million Americans held security or secret clearances, more that the entire population of Norway, and the numbers continue to grow.
Independent contractors are happy to jump on the bandwagon but only make a sinister situation worse.

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Eisenhower’s Cross of Iron Speech:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

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I have good news for anyone wanting to nuke anyone in the M.E. to solve the problems! It doesn’t help. http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm .
Personally I think the attacks on shipping outside Fujairah are performed by criminals based on a cargo ship nearby. At night they launch a Fast Rescue Boat and sail around putting magnetic bombs above waterline on ships around. And then they return to their ship, hoist the FRB and have breakfast. Who can come up with such a stupid plan? Isn’t it obvious?

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Another example that illustrate Eisenhower’s statement was Powell’s flagrant lie to the U.N. Security Council in a speech made on February 2003 in which he alleged that Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction from inspectors and refusing to disarm.

This was illustrated by a childish computer generated drawing that was presented as ‘proof’. Not that it meant anything because Bush had already decided to attack and invade Iraq. And we know how that ended or rather not ended as we are still dealing with the repercussions to this day with for instance IS.

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WTF A-hole. Jingo blinders?? Ducks? Dogs? You need to get out of the zoo.

One of the constants I’ve observed, is that those who are pre-disposed to conspiracy theories are in reality very closed minded. The American universities and colleges are full of individuals who won’t listen or analyze views that are in opposition to theirs. Indeed, these individuals label such views as “hate”, or “racist”, or “fascist” or “homophobic” any of a number of titles. And when asked a question they can’t or won’t answer, they will divert and/or deflect.

You did not directly address or answer my question:
"What if it really is the IRGC? What if SIGINT and/or HUMINT corroborates the video? Are you so subjective that you can’t be objective?

Indirectly, however, you did answer. You deflected and diverted to the zoo and cheeto’s. Clearly you are so wrapped up in your own subjectivity, you can’t be objective.

However, since you brought up the “red hat & jingo blinders”, here is another question for your twisted illogic. First, a little background:

Adam Schiff, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, is a huge and vocal opponent of Trump. If you are an American, you know that; if you are a foreigner, now you know!

Rep. Adam Schiff told CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday (the 16th) that the evidence indicating Iran is behind the attacks on two oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman is strong.

“There’s no question that Iran is behind the attacks. I think the evidence is very strong and compelling. In fact, I think this was a class-A screwup by Iran to insert a mine on the ship; it didn’t detonate, they had to go back and retrieve it. I can imagine there are some Iranian heads rolling for that botched operation,” the California Democrat said.

Here is the question: Why would a vocal opponent, who despises and seeks the impeachment of the President, agree with the intelligence if the INTEL was wrong, fake, weak, or inconclusive?

See if you can get your head out of your ass, and answer the question this time, fool!

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Since you mentioned zoo … the old saying about wrestling with pigs seems to apply to your posts.

Don’t forget to vote.

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You still haven’t answered the two previous questions, all you’ve done is divert, and deflect.IMG_0757

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Little off topic but I’m beginning to feel a resemblance between seasmaster and c.captain…

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I think Steamer is saying do not trust any “intelligence” that promotes a decision to go to war. Gulf of Tonkin and Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction bullshit are examples of intelligence that was used to justify billions of US citizen dollars and the death of thousands of US citizens lives all based on lies. It is well the US citizen demand proof before they send their children off to die. Be very suspicious of those who promote war that work for those who benefit from war. The revolving door between the military, intelligence and military contractors is still spinning and the campaign contributions to both parties continue to flow from these same people that stand to benefit from your tax dollars and your childrens lives,

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And now we suddenly have color pictures. Red as head gear could indicate that these are members of the Revolutionaty Guard or are that orange life jackets? If this was a stealth operation I would use all black outfits. That red or orange is ideal for nighttime headshots. According to the shadow projected on the hull of the front guy the light source doesn’t corresponds with the camera position. Interesting. Maybe it was the camera on board of a drone in combination with the light source of a helicopter.

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Aluminum and green composite material the US says was left behind following the removal of an unexploded limpet mine on a Japanese-owned tanker.

It looks like that they could not remove the ring magnet which is partly visible. This is a messy forceful removal job. Those guys were lucky that the mine didn’t explode during operation crowbar. There are enough remnants left for mine expert to determine the type and make. If it is was bought on the international market it does not prove anything.

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Yes, but they should be credited with wearing their PPE. Safety first whence removing large explosives after all.

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I’ve been waiting for Bellingcat to weigh in on this. They’re always very thorough, so it might be a while. Meanwhile, their twitter thread makes for interesting reading, even though much of it mirrors what has been said here.

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That guy in the picture above was definitely wearing a life jacket. Size of the ship estimated by the height of the crewmen at 16m x 4.5m.

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And suddenly there is reasonable detail with the telemetry shown. Nah, nothing fishy here folks, just take our word for it and send your children down to the recruiting office.

Let’s look a little deeper into this. So far it looks like those pics may have been taken by a drone or helicopter that arrived on the scene at the instant to record what has been published so far then had to depart immediately after the few seconds of video we have seen. They either have nothing other than those few seconds and have nothing to show where the boat came from and where went after retrieving the alleged mine. Did it come from Iran, did it go back to Iran?

There is always a reason why the hawks don’t provide clear proof of what they claim, and that reason always proves to be because their story is based on lies and political schemes intended to benefit a very few at no risk to themselves.

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Looks like there were ten or twelve magnets. Not sure there’s a way to remove them without brute force – or heating them above the Curie point which might not be recommended for a mine.

What’s with the ?screw holes? at ten and four o’clock?

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That photo with all the magnet tracks is not consistent with the b/w video showing a single man removing the device with apparent ease.

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I looks more and more that we are being played. European leadership is not convinced and adopted a wait-and-see attitude. Since an independent international media is virtually non-existent (Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V journalism) the hoax is carried on and gets stronger.

In the USNI News photo they have, as a new feature, added red barets on top of the life vests probably to suggest that the Repubican Guard was on board.

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