These guys would not be working if not for a STRIKE. (Lockout). They can say whatever they want to so they can sleep at night but at the end of the day they know what they are , Pinkerton’s.
U.S. judge orders longshore picketers to stop interfering with grain barges
Richard Read | rread@oregonian.com
Published: Oct 16, 2013, 15:24
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A federal judge in Portland has ordered longshore workers to stop interfering with grain-barge operations when the union conducts water-based pickets.
U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken issued a preliminary injunction Tuesday ordering the International Longshore and Warehouse Union to stop targeting neutral parties in its dispute with grain terminals. She directed the U.S. Marshals Service to enforce the order on the Columbia and Snake rivers.
Aiken said union maneuvering of picket boats between Tidewater Barge Lines Inc.’s tugboats and barges was dangerous and restraining, if not coercive.
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Continuing coverage of the contract negotiations between longshoremen and Northwest grain terminal operators.The National Labor Relations Board’s Seattle office sought the injunction, following a complaint by Tidewater, which alleged the union has hurt its business. Jennifer Sargent, a union spokeswoman, said union leaders believe that restricting water pickets violates free-speech rights.
Aiken’s ruling is the latest development in a yearlong dispute between the union and Columbia Grain Inc. in Portland and United Grain Corp. in Vancouver, which have locked out longshore workers. The two sides have resumed contract talks, holding negotiations Oct. 3 and scheduling more meetings into November.
Pat McCormick, a spokesman for the grain companies, declined to characterize the talks. “Sitting at the table is progress,” he said.
– Richard Read
Just read that Foss is chartering 2 tugs and bringing them to the river from P&R water taxi in Hawaii wonder if they are trying to get in to the 30k$ per ship job moves on the down low?!
So the coast guard does an inspection on the SCAB fleet"aka strike force" and the story goes that some of the crews did not have the papers they needed and then the C/G tells them they have to take drug test, 3 of the crew members quit on the spot. Guess that explains the oops a daisy’s…
[QUOTE=Signal Red;123011]So the coast guard does an inspection on the SCAB fleet"aka strike force" and the story goes that some of the crews did not have the papers they needed and then the C/G tells them they have to take drug test, 3 of the crew members quit on the spot. Guess that explains the oops a daisy’s…[/QUOTE]
So here is another union guy writing crap, I heard one guy didn’t have his papers right, but no one quit when the drug test were done. But I have a question why are the guys on the boat scab if it is the longshoremen are the ones on strike/ locked out, and tidewater’s and shaver’s crews are not on strike but just refuse to do their jobs?
It’s not a strike the ILWU was locked out 6 months after their contract ran out, and want the positions back the grain companys are private and want their own people
The pay is the amount being quoted, Their is no need for anybody the company is full up,All piss tests came back in the clear and all documents and licenses but one are in the good
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Nobody failed a drug test, and nobody quit
The only one who left was a lame ass deckhand
I second what Bering sea said. I know of one wheelhouse guy up there with a decade or so on zdrive boats. From what I heard They had some bozos initially but have since cut some loose.
Also heard the scab dockworkers have been far more efficient than the union guys were. But that can all be manipulated however one wants, just what I heard.
Unpossible!!! Everyone knows that teh union is the only one who knows how to work properly!!
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Both sides in labor dispute call negotiations 'fruitful’
Union dockworkers, grain terminal owners at odds for more than a year
By Aaron Corvin, Columbian port & economy reporter
Published: October 23, 2013, 7:20 PM
Union dockworkers and grain-terminal owners in the Northwest, including United Grain Corp. at the Port of Vancouver, who’ve sparred for more than a year over terms of a new labor contract, said Wednesday that renewed negotiations this week have been fruitful. (Columbian files)
Union dockworkers and grain-terminal owners in the Northwest, who’ve sparred for more than a year over terms of a new labor contract, said Wednesday that renewed negotiations this week have been fruitful.
In a statement issued to The Columbian, Jennifer Sargent, spokeswoman for the International Longshore and Warehouse Union, said the negotiations held on Oct. 21 and 22 “were positive and productive.”
Pat McCormick, spokesman for the Pacific Northwest Grain Handlers Association — whose membership includes United Grain Corp. at the Port of Vancouver — said Sargent’s comments are “consistent” with his understanding of how the restarted talks are going.
Neither party will comment on the specifics of their new and productive negotiations. But both are expected to schedule additional discussions in the weeks ahead. Wednesday’s news suggests the potential for a resolution of a long-running and bitter conflict.
Two essential arguments frame the dispute: To boost their competitiveness, the grain handlers say, they want a new contract that mirrors employer-friendly terms the ILWU signed in February 2012 with Export Grain Terminal in Longview. The union says the demands by United Grain, Columbia Grain in Portland and Louis Dreyfus Commodities — which operates facilities in Portland and Seattle — aim to break the union and hurt workers.
The quarrel intensified when United Grain and Columbia Grain locked out Longshore workers in February and May, respectively. The fallout from the lockout includes ongoing pickets by the ILWU, the use of replacement workers at United Grain, Vancouver police responses to reported incidents, and charges and countercharges filed by the two sides with the National Labor Relations Board.
The conflict briefly prompted state grain inspectors, worried about their security, to balk at conducting their work at United Grain. At one point, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee weighed in, calling on the Longshore union and the companies to re-establish negotiations. And Eastern Washington grain growers expressed worry the dispute would worsen, hobbling their ability to move agricultural products to overseas markets.
At the Port of Vancouver alone, roughly 3.2 million metric tons of grain — about 16 percent of U.S. wheat exports — moves through on its way to overseas markets.
The ILWU and the Grain Handlers Association agreed to this week’s revived negotiations after the two parties talked on Oct. 3. The new round of conversations is the first since the Longshore union and the grain handlers met in late March in Vancouver. Those talks quickly broke off.
Initially, another grain terminal owner, Temco, negotiated with the ILWU as a member of the Grain Handlers Association. But Temco — a U.S.-based operator of grain export facilities in Portland, Tacoma and Kalama — later decided to negotiate directly with union dockworkers.
Temco, a joint venture between Cargill Inc. and CHS Inc., subsequently signed a temporary contract with the Longshore union in March. United Grain officials have said that temporary contract includes a contingency clause allowing it to be changed to include beneficial changes the union may accept in a contract with the remaining members of the Grain Handlers Association.
. Z-drive also said , But that can all be manipulated however one wants, just what I heard. If things are that Rosie why are they still negotiation with the ILWU ? Can’t wait to see it settled.
[QUOTE=Signal Red;123115]. Z-drive also said , But that can all be manipulated however one wants, just what I heard. If things are that Rosie why are they still negotiation with the ILWU ? Can’t wait to see it settled.[/QUOTE]
Signal Red you must be one of those guy who refuse to do your job and push those barges up river to get loaded.
He wasn’t payed off He was a old dude with a mates license who got caught by the USCG when they vetted all the crews every thing is normal over there now
He had beed sailing as a captain for 20 years and nobody checked him in the past
We don’t have Unions in the South and we move a hell of a lot of Products without the labor hassles, You do your job get paid well and you keep your job, you f off work slow your ran off
pretty simple economics for us down south.
I guess that narrows down what you must be.
[QUOTE=Signal Red;123158]I guess that narrows down what you must be.[/QUOTE]
No just know what is going on there. Or should I say what not going on. I heard some guys on the river there are afraid to move some barges. Do you think if you ever go on strike that the longshoremen with have your back, I think not??
looks like your source was right.
[QUOTE=“Signal Red;123739”]looks like your source was right.[/QUOTE]
Smart move by Foss - removed 2 boats that were competing against them in the Hawaii tug assist business.
Strike Force down a boat, So the scab captain hits something hard and now the Tug Washington needs major repairs to its units. Keep up the good work…
And we all know a union captain has never put a ding in a hull…
Ya no but union guy can drive a boat