Utter codswallop. What a heap of steaming bullshit!
The report highlights sea-level rise as one of the most immediate threats. A rise of just 40 cm could place some of the world’s busiest gateways, including Houston, Shanghai and Lázaro Cárdenas, at increased risk of flooding and operational disruption.
When has a rise of “just 40cm” happened in anyone’s lifetime? Where will all that water come from? The moon? Maybe they should consider deeper harbours will accommodate deeper draught ships as a positive sign?
Next they’ll be claiming a rise of “just 40 degrees” of temperature might be a bit hurty too.
Why does anyone read or heed this sort of slop?
From here:
Source: Dating Greenland Ice Margin Changes
And here:
Source: Ice Shelves | National Snow and Ice Data Center
That’s ice, by the way, not water. And it’s not melting.
I suppose we could get the land to sink. Pull out the bung?
How much heat is needed to melt sufficient ice to raise the world’s sea level by “just 40cm”? And wouldn’t the air temperature drop uncomfortably if heat is suborned to melt centuries old ice instead of growing crops and stuff?
Is that from the sun? Volcanoes? Dung fires in African mud huts? Hot air from the IPCC? Bushfires on the moon? Trump agitating every single Lefty on the planet to boiling point?
It’s not happening, mate. It can’t happen.
The trouble is we have been here before. The world was warmer 2000 years ago and it was still warmer in my part of the world a thousand years ago. Maori settled in the southern part of the South Island and possessing a very meager wardrobe apart from a summer selection of grass skirts soon moved north to warmer climes and only visited in summer.
I think most of us, particularly in this forum (I hope this is true), will know if the ice sheets melt it will not change sea level. Research suggests that the Antarctic ice sheets are breaking off in one location and growing in others.
Have you ever seen any scientific work on how far Greenland is underwater hence if it all melts the sea level might go up or might go down.
So nobody needs to know if ports need a dredge or more fill on shore?
I will bet they still wont station any oil booms at a dock so they can attend to an oil spill as fast as possible instead of 12 hr delay as an oil boom gets trucked from a factory far from the port.
Something I will ask Edwin Tong next time I see him.
He is pretty sharp so he will understand although may not know of the issue.
As of today what can be seen of Greenland is all above water. ![]()
If you mean “how much of the Greenland icecap is below sea level”, yes I have studied it:
Source: An introduction to the Greenland Ice Sheet - AntarcticGlaciers.org
Source: Ice Sheet Quick Facts | National Snow and Ice Data Center
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The lowest point in Greenland is sea level, but much of the interior bedrock is below sea level due to the weight of the ice sheet pressing it down. The exact area below sea level is not specified, but the ice sheet’s thickness and mass significantly affect the land’s elevation.
Antarctic Glaciers
polarjournal.net
No data like you post fails to mention the issue too
That is right, all scientific data point to the icecaps melting.
They also agree that part of the icecaps, both in Greenland and Antartica, is below present day sealevel and that the land will rise if/when the ice melts away.
How large % is below sealevel, how fast the melting will be and how much the land will rise is disputed, however.
So than we agree; us old farths don’t have to worry too much.
This will be problems for the next generations to solve:
- How to slow down the melting
- How to protect coastal cities and infrastructure from sealevel rise.
- When to give up and move to higher ground.
Bullshit! Again, where’s the heat coming from? Any engineers here want to calculate the heat required?
when the ice melts and the sea level goes up, we move?
Anywhere that has happened yet?
Any ports doing the work on your advice?
Lots of land going down in many places, Florida for example
I said: When to give up and move to higher ground.
WHEN (future tens) means; not today, or tomorrow.
BTW; It is not like a tsunami that require a quick move NOW.
Maybe sometime in the next millenia?:
Source: https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/8/is-the-rate-of-sea-level-rise-increasing/
Yes, on low laying islands in the Pacific and in many coastal areas, where erosion caused by sealevel rise eats away foundations under houses and infrastructure:
Source: Dive Deeper | Impacts – Global Sea Level Change
Yes I get daily calls from Harbourmasters all over the world asking for my advice.![]()
Bullshit again. The majority of low lying Pacific islands are actually growing in size or remaining the same.
https://joannenova.com.au/2023/03/1000-pacific-and-indian-islands-are-not-shrinking-due-to-climate-change/
Erosion isn’t caused by non-existent or minuscule “sea level rise” but the normal action of waves and the tendency of islanders to pump up fresh ground water along with unwise structures which can obstruct the natural changes.
The natural tendency of coral islands is to grow higher if there’s any sea level rise. In Sydney, with one of the longest records, it’s just 6.5mm per century. Super scary.
https://joannenova.com.au/2014/12/sydney-sea-levels-rising-at-just-6-5cm-per-century-peak-panic-is-behind-us/
You know how to pick’m, not when to …![]()
Source: Joanne Nova - Wikipedia
Facts about Kandahalagalaa Island:
It happens to other islands aswell:
Do you have a point? If so, just state it.
If the land is rising but sea (level) stays at the same place, doesn’t that prove that the sealevel is rising at the same rate as the land? ![]()


