Reaching out primarily to Mr. Cavo, but if any one else has an input…in 1995, I applied for and received permission to sit for an original unlimited master exam. Under the new regimen, is this still permitted, provided the applicant has the requisite qualifications?
I find myself in the position of mentoring aspirant mariners from time to time and would like to be able to provide “good gouge.”
Apologies if this matter is covered in a previous thread.
Bump…Bueller, anyone, Bueller…
Do you have any seatime since 1995? Recency is everything these days.
Apologies if I’m incorrect, but I assume you currently don’t hold any kind of license and have not held one previously. Your profile is blank and you didn’t specify in your post… A proper way to state what you are asking (now days) would be something along the lines of “can I get a credential from qualifications acquired 18 years ago” btw, most of us on here would regard a Master’s license as an Unlimited tonnage Oceans license, usually requiring a lifetime commitment. You wouldn’t be asking that question if you had qualified. Probably why you have not received many replies… Okay, pointy stick set aside:
Really depends on a lot of factors, like recency as clear leader pointed out. Your original approval to test will obviously be expired, so with a new application you would have to satisfy the current requirements. You can go to the NMC website and select the appropriate checklist for the tonnage and scope you’d qualify for. Many of the larger tonnage licenses require numerous STCW classes, as well as time in grade as mate, etc. Another issue would be your original sea time. The NMC doesn’t keep track of old sea time very well. You may have to gather up all your sea time from before.
If you can provide 720 days, with recency, you should have little trouble getting a <100 ton near coastal master. You must pass a physical, drug test, fill out an application properly and pass the test.
I asked this question on behalf of a prospective applicant; I am on my fourth issue since successfully testing in 1995. Thank you for the input.
I don’t understand your question. What exactly are you asking?
[QUOTE=Capt. Phoenix;89001]I don’t understand your question. What exactly are you asking?[/QUOTE]
He’s asking if anyone today can get their license the way he did in 1995.
I*t’s still possible for the license, but your ability to use the license will be greatly limited as it’s not possible for STCW. We are also taking a closer look at the qualifying service and whether it is equivalent to service under a merchant mariner license, and it’s possibl;e many applicants wjho were approved int he past will not be today.
Mr. Cavo, thanks.
Generally speaking, they (NMC) will not approve anyone to go directly to MASTER AGT OCEANS without first holding OICNW. This was first implemented as “policy” when STCW rolled in in 2002. However (there’s always a however), there has been some shifting back to the idea of “approving” an applicant for a “domestic endorsement” only. As Mr. Cavo stated earlier, without the STCW endorsement, holding MASTER AGT Oceans (domestically) is sort of moot. The best advise is to apply for the highest level you think they qualify for and then see what NMC comes back with. I would suspect they would require a year as OICNW before qualifying for the Management Level (Chief Mate or Master).
Agree Jim?
AndyH
[QUOTE=AndyH;89366]Generally speaking, they (NMC) will not approve anyone to go directly to MASTER AGT OCEANS without first holding OICNW. This was first implemented as “policy” when STCW rolled in in 2002. However (there’s always a however), there has been some shifting back to the idea of “approving” an applicant for a “domestic endorsement” only. As Mr. Cavo stated earlier, without the STCW endorsement, holding MASTER AGT Oceans (domestically) is sort of moot. The best advise is to apply for the highest level you think they qualify for and then see what NMC comes back with. I would suspect they would require a year as OICNW before qualifying for the Management Level (Chief Mate or Master).
Agree Jim?
AndyH[/QUOTE]
Generally I agree. The license and STCW are separate and you can get the license without STCW, this was a policy change from a few years ago. However, as we botyh have noted, you probably cannot get the corresponding STCW, so you would be limited in abiklity to use the license to its full authority.