Norwegian Tanker Grounded in Alaska


#41

Maybe more realistic?
Here the Captain’s chair on the AHTS Heritage Service:

And the equivalent on the AHTS Pacific Bronze:


#42

I hope this one have proper charts on board: https://gcaptain.com/ship-photos-of-the-day-real-viking-ship-completes-north-atlantic-crossing/

Up to date BA Charts, based on latest survey of a part of America that is not being ignored by the rest of the country.

PS> They did OK without charts abt. 1000 years ago though.


#43

[QUOTE=ombugge;186647]I hope this one have proper charts on board: https://gcaptain.com/ship-photos-of-the-day-real-viking-ship-completes-north-atlantic-crossing/

Up to date BA Charts, based on latest survey of a part of America that is not being ignored by the rest of the country.

PS> They did OK without charts abt. 1000 years ago though.[/QUOTE]

I heard they just used Google Earth on their cellphones.


#44

[QUOTE=ombugge;186647]I hope this one have proper charts on board: https://gcaptain.com/ship-photos-of-the-day-real-viking-ship-completes-north-atlantic-crossing/

Up to date BA Charts, based on latest survey of a part of America that is not being ignored by the rest of the country.

PS> They did OK without charts abt. 1000 years ago though.[/QUOTE]

It wouldn’t make economic sense to survey every backwater port in Alaska or other remote region of the world to the same accuracy as say, a major VLCC port. And it’s not about who issues the chart. In many areas BA charts are based on old surveys and sounding are sparse. If you read the notes it will often say that the sounding are based on old surveys and that the depths in some areas are not to be trusted

Marc started a thread on this with a link to his post.On the accuracy of nautical charts


#45

Not Norwegian and not in Alaska, but another Tanker has been in trouble in US waters: https://gcaptain.com/oil-tanker-hit-three-sailboats-and-ran-aground/

Looks like they lost power and/or steering and was unable to stop/turn her by dropping the anchor. A sudden stop is noticeable and there appears to be a “crashing sound” at the end of this video, indicating grounding on rocks, not soft mud.

This one is Dutch owned: http://www.ace-tankers.com/index.html
But managed by another large Ship Management Company: https://www.fleetship.com/shipmanagement/en/index.php

Anybody have any info, or comments, on this incident??


#46

They told me, “tankers are the safest segment of the industry.” Were they lying? I happen to like safe and boring.


#47

They don’t call New Hampshire the “Granite State” for nothing. There aren’t many places to go aground where you won’t be into the granite straight away. The rest of New England, too.

From New York Harbor to the north and east, with the exception of most of Long Island’s South Shore (not counting Montauk), and the Cape Cod beaches, it’s pretty much all rock, all the time.


#48

yes, while depths usually are 10-20 meters (metric for you Norwegians) close to channels it’s mostly rock like you’re used to. There’s mud but exceptions, not the rule.

The Piscataqua is no joke with very strong currents. My hunch is some type of mechanical failure vs ship handling error.


#49

Tankers are safe if they are in good condition, well equipped and being operated within their limitations by qualified people, which is the same for any other ship, plane or whatever means of transportation. (Incl. your own car)

I happen to like safe and boring.

In that case, consider moving to Norway.


#50

[QUOTE=ombugge;186814]In that case, consider moving to Norway.[/QUOTE]

What’s the matter? You short on under qualified immigrants who don’t speak the language in Norway?


#51

[QUOTE=Emrobu;186821]What’s the matter? You short on under qualified immigrants who don’t speak the language in Norway?[/QUOTE]

Yes there is shortage in the fish processing industry in the north of Norway at the moment. Training provided, so don’t let your lack of skills hold you back.
As for language skills, the fish don’t care much about talking while being slaughtered. A smattering of English will do, since the natives are friendly and English speaking.

The sun shines day and night and the temperature was in the high 20s C in Finnmark this week.
Pay is good, what are you waiting for??


#52

[QUOTE=ombugge;186823]Yes there is shortage in the fish processing industry in the north of Norway at the moment. Training provided, so don’t let your lack of skills hold you back.
As for language skills, the fish don’t care much about talking while being slaughtered. A smattering of English will do, since the natives are friendly and English speaking.

The sun shines day and night and the temperature was in the high 20s C in Finnmark this week.
Pay is good, what are you waiting for??[/QUOTE]

As much as I love fish guts, I reckon it’d be a career limiting move to tell Teekay: thanks for the cadet gig, I know you had high hopes for me, but the Norwegian fishermen really need my special skill set right now.


#53

[QUOTE=Emrobu;186825]As much as I love fish guts, I reckon it’d be a career limiting move to tell Teekay: thanks for the cadet gig, I know you had high hopes for me, but the Norwegian fishermen really need my special skill set right now.[/QUOTE]

OK, so it is Teekay: 1, Finnmark: 0 this time.

If anybody else is interested, here is a link dedicated to get people to move to Finnmark County, with contact details for every municipality: http://www.flyttnordover.no/vi-hjelper-deg.156297.no.html

There are a lot of good reasons to do so, both economical : http://www.huseierne.no/hus-bolig/tema/okonomi/flytt-nordover/
And lifestyle; High pay, short working hours, long holidays and NO STRESS.

It is specially attractive to the outdoor types: http://www.finnmark.no/page.jsp?id=72&lang=no

Don’t know Norwegian language yet?? Google Translate will help you.

PS> Being of North American origin does not hinder you from enjoying the good life in Finnmark.


#54

[QUOTE=Emrobu;186803] I happen to like safe and boring.[/QUOTE]

In that case, consider moving to Norway.

Actually I was replying to your statement above, base on how I feel after a bit over 3 months of living here in Norway.

Having spent most of my life outside Norway, I start to feel bored. Yes, I have lived most of the time in a VERY safe (some say boring) place called Singapore, but seldom having spent more than a few weeks anywhere without travelling.

I have not always been travelling and working in the safest of places in the world, but never felt unsafe, or feared for my life, yet I appreciate the safety experienced here in Norway. (Old age maybe??)

Not that Norway doesn’t have it’s nut cases, as frequently pointed out after the mass killing in Oslo some 5 years ago: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/22/anders-breivik-massacre-one-of-us-anne-seierstad
Often referred to -sometime with glee- both here and in other fora, but that was a “one off” incident.
In general, there are few shootings in Norway and most of those happen in Oslo. (Even the Police is unarmed)

In short. Norway should meet your requirement; “Safe and boring”. When you have served your “bond” with Teekay, you may reconsider. You are welcome here.

In fact Teekay has a large operation in Norway, so you may be able to get the best of both worlds.


#55

[QUOTE=ombugge;186828]It is specially attractive to the outdoor types: http://www.finnmark.no/page.jsp?id=72&lang=no
[/QUOTE]

The attire is optional in the wilderness of Finnmark: http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/129085/fisker-naken-saa-gaar-det-galt


#56

Jeezus man give it a rest! Did you move back to Norway and take a job with the fucking tourism board or something?


#57

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;186853]Jeezus man give it a rest! Did you move back to Norway and take a job with the fucking tourism board or something?[/QUOTE]

I wonder what he did to get himself thrown out of Singapore. Maybe they got tired of hearing about Norway.


#58

I love Norway. And Norwegians. They got lots of things to be proud of. It’s totally understandable, all this bragging. Singapore is also wonderful: the hospital saved me from the foot rot that I picked up on a DOF boat for only $100. And it has many other wonderful qualities. The US is also cool: some of my favourite Americans live there. But you see, I live in Canada: the True North Strong and Free. We have rocks and trees and trees and rocks and rocks and trees and trees and rocks and rocks and trees and rocks and water. So unless you can get my one true love to ring me up and well… And I mean diamond ring…I’m not moving my rumpe to Finnmark, or any other mark.


#59

Oh I just thought some info on an alternative place to live would come in handy, just in case.
You never know, there may be some that looks to escape the promised utopia of Trump’s new “Great America”.
FINNMARK NEEDS YOU. OPPORTUNITIES ABOUND!!

PS> Finnmark has plenty rocks but not too many trees. Could be an alternative to Western Canada.


#60

[QUOTE=Lee Shore;186854]I wonder what he did to get himself thrown out of Singapore. Maybe they got tired of hearing about Norway.[/QUOTE]

No they did not. They know all about it already lah; “Norway?? VEEERY Cold. Plenty fish”.