Norwegian Tanker Grounded in Alaska


#21

[QUOTE=DeepSeaDiver;186534][/QUOTE]

Jealous??? That’s how it is on ALL Norwegian flag ships.

This is the crew recreation room in the Sky Lounge above the bridge.


#22

[QUOTE=z-drive;186533]but how about the accommodations… Ritz carleton or four seasons? Maybe they’re only omni, Hilton or Westin quality and there’s the root cause?[/QUOTE]

What do you talk about?? It has to be Imperial Hotel, Tokyo standard. Nothing else will be approved by NMD.
Those low class American chain hotels wouldn’t cut it.

Ooops, I just realized that Four Seasons is owned by a Canadian company.


#23

Based on the Department of commerce public records info for the state of Alaska - Vitus Energy LLC. / previously Vitus Marine LLC was incorporated in Alaska on 9/29/2009 - That would be consistent with Mr. Mark Smith’s Bio of leaving Crowley in 2009. Mr. Smith is curently 50% vested owner as per the Alaska public records search.

https://www.commerce.alaska.gov/cbp/Main/CorporationDetail.aspx?id=124164

In 2009 the company Vitus partnered with Alaska Village Electric Cooperative (AVEC) in the construction of two articulating tug and barge sets designed specifically for coastal operations in Alaska. Vitus also charters other marine assets for the delivery of fuel sourced domestically and internationally. Now why the URL link in post #11 directs to the opps page is strange?

http://vitus-energy.com/history


#24

This is in the Lake Aleknagik area.

But it does look like they have fun.

Nice looking truck.


#25

I thought the gorilla cage smell was in reference to how you thought American berthing vessels measured up? Looks like they move ro/to cargo too. Was wondering if they did that like Crowley. Then again, it’s technically not ro/ro if it’s not on a pcc ship according to one genius.


#26

That’s why I always keep a pair of good covies: just in case the Norwegians ever need my help with anything. Don’t want to leave a greasy mark on the sofa. Quite gauche, you know.


#27

All that’s missing is the Norwegians, as they are gradually being replaced by many of their companies.


#28

[QUOTE=lm1883;186560]All that’s missing is the Norwegians, as they are gradually being replaced by many of their companies.[/QUOTE]

You are right, there probably weren’t any Norwegians on the Champion Ebony when she touched bottom due to outdated charts for the area: http://kyuk.org/post/outdated-maps-could-have-caused-champion-ebony-run-aground#stream/0

But you don’t have to be Norwegian to enjoy good living condition on board ships, do you??


#29

[QUOTE=z-drive;186548]I thought the gorilla cage smell was in reference to how you thought American berthing vessels measured up? Looks like they move ro/to cargo too. Was wondering if they did that like Crowley. Then again, it’s technically not ro/ro if it’s not on a pcc ship according to one genius.[/QUOTE]

Rubbish. The “Gorilla Cage smell” came about in refr. to the Edda Fides working in the GoM not being good enough for the people housed on board. Now, you can make your own assumption why the smell.

I have no idea how Americans berthing vessels smell, or what any of it has to do with Ro/Ro, or Swedish morons??


#30

And here is the outdated chart in 1,534,076 scale. Please note you can zoom in and out, or move it around as it is interactive.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/16006.shtml

You can also view in chart catalog located at the link below. Please note the tabs on top to include the help tab.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/InteractiveCatalog/nrnc.shtml?rnc=16006


#31

[QUOTE=Emrobu;186550]That’s why I always keep a pair of good covies: just in case the Norwegians ever need my help with anything. Don’t want to leave a greasy mark on the sofa. Quite gauche, you know.[/QUOTE]

You wouldn’t be allowed into the plush quarters with greasy hands or work cloths, so stop worrying.
If you don’t want to change for meals, there is usually a “Dirty Mess”, or a “Coffee Shop”, where you can go.

PS> Has your “covies” got anything to do with this place?: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Covies-Abbott/163652963655272


#32

[QUOTE=DeepSeaDiver;186563]And here is the outdated chart in 1,534,076 scale. Please note you can zoom in and out, or move it around as it is interactive.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/16006.shtml

You can also view in chart catalog located at the link below. Please note the tabs on top to include the help tab.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/InteractiveCatalog/nrnc.shtml?rnc=16006[/QUOTE]

Yes very nice and modern, but are the data still from 1910s??

PS> Thanks for pointing out the Help tag, otherwise it would be difficult to figure out how to use this sophisticated Chart Catalog.


#33

Here is the [B][U]closest Buoy[/U][/B] info - [B][U]But it is still pretty far away from the incident.[/U][/B]

http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/stationhome.html?id=9464212

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=vcva2

      • Updated - - -

[QUOTE=ombugge;186565]Yes very nice and modern, but are the data still from 1910s??

PS> Thanks for pointing out the Help tag, otherwise it would be difficult to figure out how to use this sophisticated Chart Catalog.[/QUOTE]

Yuppers prior to World War 1 but we are working on it :rolleyes:


#34

Western Alaska still has many areas that are uncharted. Many areas where the charts are old and useless, particularly where there are rapidly changing conditions, like annual ice out.

And many areas, like Nunivak Island, that are only charted on small scale charts that show vast areas without much detail. Most of the survey data is quite old. Most of Nunivak Island is basically uncharted inside the 10 fathom curve.

The west side of Etolin Strait where the tankers lighter seems to be pretty much as shown on the chart and that area does not change much.

Hopefully, we will find out exactly where and why the tanker grounded. When you chose to go into an area like this, you know that you are taking some risk.

Perhaps, these tankers need some sort of “pilot” with local knowledge onboard all the time.


#35

[QUOTE=ombugge;186561]You are right, there probably weren’t any Norwegians on the Champion Ebony when she touched bottom due to outdated charts for the area: http://kyuk.org/post/outdated-maps-could-have-caused-champion-ebony-run-aground#stream/0
[/QUOTE]

Strictly speaking an “outdated” chart is one that has been replaced by a newer edition. When a new editon is issued it does not necessarly mean that a later hydrographic survey was done. The “Source Diagram” on NOAA charts shows the vintage survey that was used.

The ship may have touched bottom because of chart inaccuracies or the crew may not have appreciated the need for increased under keel clearance when navigating in that area. It’s called “testing the chart”

This is from a Professional Mariner article Alaska pilots cope with remote outports, scant charting, williwaws

Piloting in this part of the world presents another problem that most mariners don’t have to deal with: inaccurate charts. “A lot of the soundings in some of these outports we service go back many, many years … That makes them suspect,” he said. To counter that uncertainty, the pilots “stay along your established and familiar routes.”


#36

[QUOTE=ombugge;186564]You wouldn’t be allowed into the plush quarters with greasy hands or work cloths, so stop worrying.
If you don’t want to change for meals, there is usually a “Dirty Mess”, or a “Coffee Shop”, where you can go.

PS> Has your “covies” got anything to do with this place?: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Covies-Abbott/163652963655272[/QUOTE]

Yes, the coffee shop. Where the messman delivers stacks of fresh waffles at 9am, and the USD 20’000 coffee machine grinds its own beans and makes fluffy hot foam out of real cow’s milk 24 hours a day, one cup at a time, on demand. I go offshore to improve my quality of life. No, not for the pay. Because its actually better out there.

I was in Aberdeen for my BOSIET/HUET, but I never went to that pub in particular, no.

Edit: and the waffles have creamy sweet butter and finest-kind raspberry jam. When’s it going to be the good ol days again?


#37

[QUOTE=Emrobu;186577]
Edit: and the waffles have creamy sweet butter and finest-kind raspberry jam. When’s it going to be the good ol days again?[/QUOTE]

Everyone knows that civilised people eat waffles with sour cream and strawberry jam.


#38

[QUOTE=Kraken;186585]Everyone knows that civilised people eat waffles with sour cream and strawberry jam.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure it is not Lingonberry…

//youtu.be/w6_PtNRYhy0

The Dude always abides.


#39

[QUOTE=Kraken;186585]Everyone knows that civilised people eat waffles with sour cream and strawberry jam.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the Swedes do it this way.

duck and cover


#40

[QUOTE=DeepSeaDiver;186534][/QUOTE]

Pish, tosh. Those are peasant quarters. Look what I get: