I work overseas on a Liberian DP-3 drillship , one of the DPOs in trying to renew his MMC . First ,they said the rig had no IMO number then he sent the certifcate of registry and got this :
MARINER SUBMITTEDCERTIFICATE OF REGISTRY , HOWEVER THE VESSEL IS NOTINSPECTED THEREFORE CANNOT USE THE SERVICE TOWARD RENEWAL OF MARINERS STCW; - AWAITING FURTHER RESPONSE FROM MARINER
We go through ABS and Liberian inspections . He has hit a wall at the NMC . Has anybody run into this before ? Any suggestions on how to handle this ?
[QUOTE=GOMariner;167025]I work overseas on a Liberian DP-3 drillship , one of the DPOs in trying to renew his MMC . First ,they said the rig had no IMO number then he sent the certifcate of registry and got this :
MARINER SUBMITTEDCERTIFICATE OF REGISTRY , HOWEVER THE VESSEL IS NOTINSPECTED THEREFORE CANNOT USE THE SERVICE TOWARD RENEWAL OF MARINERS STCW; - AWAITING FURTHER RESPONSE FROM MARINER
We go through ABS and Liberian inspections . He has hit a wall at the NMC . Has anybody run into this before ? Any suggestions on how to handle this ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;167027]Send the Certificate of Inspection (COI)[/QUOTE]
An overseas Liberian flagged mobile offshore unit probably doesn’t have a COI—but if you ask for the Liberian Mobile Offshore Safety Certificate, or other statutory evidence of tonnage and service it may help them out determine equivalent service.
[QUOTE=GOMariner;167025]I work overseas on a Liberian DP-3 drillship , one of the DPOs in trying to renew his MMC . First ,they said the rig had no IMO number then he sent the certifcate of registry and got this :
MARINER SUBMITTEDCERTIFICATE OF REGISTRY , HOWEVER THE VESSEL IS NOTINSPECTED THEREFORE CANNOT USE THE SERVICE TOWARD RENEWAL OF MARINERS STCW; - AWAITING FURTHER RESPONSE FROM MARINER
We go through ABS and Liberian inspections . He has hit a wall at the NMC . Has anybody run into this before ? Any suggestions on how to handle this ?[/QUOTE]
I recently went through the exact problem with the NMC during my Chief Engineer renewal. All my sea time was aboard Panama Flagged ABS and BV classed ships working overseas. I called the NMC and they told me that all foreign flag ships are considered “Not Inspected” in their database. This really got me fired up, but all they required me to do was get another letter from my company’s HR department (or from the Ship’s Master) stating that I participated in Fire/Emergency and Abandon Ship drills in accordance with STCW Basic Training (BT) requirements during my time aboard the ships. No further issues once I emailed the additional letter to the NMC and my MMC was issued within a couple weeks.
He sent in additional information called the NMC 1 -800 number the person who answered the call contacted the evaluator and was told we are classed as a recreational vessel since we were not inspected , his time cannot be used for renewal . This is actually what happened !
He sent in additional information called the NMC 1 -800 number the person who answered the call contacted the evaluator and was told we are classed as a recreational vessel since we were not inspected , his time cannot be used for renewal . This is actually what happened ![/QUOTE]
Waay back when I was renewing my engineer’s license, I dealt with the local Houston office. . . . at the time I was working for ABS out of the Galveston office. . . I kept getting a response stating that I could only use my time with ABS if I could prove that I was actively boarding marine vessels and was surveying and inspecting machinery. . . . .It took a few weeks, but I finally did get my point across. . . .
[QUOTE=cmakin;167116]I could only use my time with ABS if I could prove that I was actively boarding marine vessels and was surveying and inspecting machinery. [/QUOTE]
I was once refused approval to teach a steam course despite holding an unlimited chief’s ticket endorsed for steam, held since life as a baby third. … and a previous approval to teach steam. The reason given was that I had no experience in steam propulsion. It didn’t take long to correct the problem but it really makes you wonder if they are hiring illiterate morons who don’t even know how the licensing system works.
It is not like these stories are rare or even unusual either so the argument that a few mistakes fall through the cracks just doesn’t wash. It is a symptom of a very poor HR system in the hills of WV.
He sent in additional information called the NMC 1 -800 number the person who answered the call contacted the evaluator and was told we are classed as a recreational vessel since we were not inspected , his time cannot be used for renewal . This is actually what happened ![/QUOTE]
Well, I hope he called back and spoke to someone else…
unless your colleague clicked a box or presented a cert for said drill ship being a recreational vessel, it sounds like they are relying on a database that doesn’t independently verify the ship, perhaps? Which wouldn’t surprise me if it never was in US. Look up the vessel on http://cgmix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXSearch.aspx by vessel number and/or name. See if a matching recreational Vsl shows up. If it do, even if it don’t, suggest to the evaluator that they click on another database besides the in house CG one, for example – IMO or Lloyds list.
You are right the vessel has never been in the US and is not on thier database . I guess he can send in more certs to get his point across about inspection . But seriously ,a 30000 Gross Tons recreational DP vessel .
[QUOTE=GOMariner;167123]You are right the vessel has never been in the US and is not on thier database . I guess he can send in more certs to get his point across about inspection . But seriously ,a 30000 Gross Tons recreational DP vessel .[/QUOTE]
Well one sailor’s occupation may be another’s recreation. I don’t judge.
they should have access to Lloyd’s List as well as their own database.
send the relevant certs, and maybe at the company website there’s an online specification sheet for the Vsl on a company website, paint the picture, give them a picture.
[QUOTE=GOMariner;167123]You are right the vessel has never been in the US and is not on thier database . I guess he can send in more certs to get his point across about inspection . But seriously ,a [B]30000 Gross Tons recreational DP vessel[/B] .[/QUOTE]
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dont give anyone ideas