just won a 100kW genset with only 111 hours on it but included is a full switchboard with a motor control center!
The only thing is that the generator is powered with a Allis Chalmers 670T diesel which I have no experience with…anybody here know of these engines?
That’s the go to person for this kinda info. Doubt anyone else would’ve seen or even heard of this sort of technological wizardry.
[QUOTE=Fraqrat;175666]That’s the go to person for this kinda info. Doubt anyone else would’ve seen or even heard of this sort of technological wizardry.[/QUOTE]
no question that I can be educated by her on testing the batteries for it but I want to know is this a 2cycle or 4 engine (not that it matters)? Looks like parts are not a problem for these.
I am pumped because of all the extras it comes with!
Where did it come from? Any info from the contact as far as vessel etc?
I’ve never heard of that manufacturer…so curious. By the way, isn’t 100 kw a lot for the orca?
I don’t know. The model I always go by is RTFM.
I believe the T means it’s turbocharged so if you happen to get the manual with it or come accross one make sure its the manual with the “T”. That happened on this tug I worked on. We had the wrong manual and everyone was setting the fuel injectors to the wrong pressure.
[QUOTE=Ctony;175672]Where did it come from? Any info from the contact as far as vessel etc?
I’ve never heard of that manufacturer…so curious. By the way, isn’t 100 kw a lot for the orca?[/QUOTE]
It’s coming from a small town named McCleary, WA about 30 miles west of Olympia where is was a standby generator but I obviously don’t know what it was standing by for (sewage plant? water works? who knows?) and was sold as surplus along with all the associated switchgear which is substantial (an entire MCC plus generator control board is included!
And no, this ain’t for the ORCA but for resale. I am in the surplus industrial equipment business these days and doing ok thank you very much.
[QUOTE=Ctony;175672]I’ve never heard of that manufacturer…so curious. [/QUOTE]
Allis Chalmers used to be a massive industrial manufacturer including steam turbines for ships but I do not think their diesels were ever marketed for maritime use. I have not heard of any vessel with A-C engines or gensets
So you have given up on being Joe Boss? Putting your management ideas into practice didn’t work out?
[QUOTE=coldduck;175689]So you have given up on being Joe Boss? Putting your management ideas into practice didn’t work out?[/QUOTE]
WTF? Being self employed means no boss and no employees if that is what you mean…I am the boss of myself and that is enough for me.
Now, does anyone know anything about Allis Chalmers diesels?
[QUOTE=c.captain;175690]WTF? Being self employed means no boss and no employees if that is what you mean…I am the boss of myself and that is enough for me.
Now, does anyone know anything about Allis Chalmers diesels?[/QUOTE]
Hey lets see the Orca! For the last couple years I’ve been reading your stories about her on here and I wanna see what you got! (I swear I’m not being a dick, I really wanna see it since you always talk about it and you say that you love old boats)
I worked on a couple of Allis-Chalmers years ago and if my brain is working correctly (which does not happen much anymore) this one is a 2 stroke. To me these engines remind me of Cummins and were pretty good engines.
A quick Google search brought up a rebuilt 670T that was priced around $3,000. From the looks of it they were used in a lot of Farm Equipment but they are some differences in the setup and some of them are different depending on what their original use was.
Send me a PM if you want to talk about this. I have a decent amount of experience working on Old Engines.
Good Luck on flipping it and I hope you make some real money on it.
[QUOTE=c.captain;175669]no question that I can be educated by her on testing the batteries for it but I want to know is this a 2cycle or 4 engine (not that it matters)? Looks like parts are not a problem for these.
I am pumped because of all the extras it comes with![/QUOTE]
Without even looking it up, I would guess that it is a four stroke. . . and no, other than having to have positive pressure to the intake for scavenging, it really doesn’t matter. . .
[QUOTE=c.captain;175690]WTF? Being self employed means no boss and no employees if that is what you mean…I am the boss of myself and that is enough for me.
Now, does anyone know anything about Allis Chalmers diesels?[/QUOTE]
And a quick google confirmed that they are big in tractor manufacture (all that time I spend in Indiana isn’t completely wasted). . . see Allis Chalmer dealers all over the place.
More info. . . installed in the Allis Chalmers 7045 Tractor. . . 6 cylinder inline, 426 ci. . . looking at the photos, is four stroke. . .shouldn’t be too hard to work on. . . parts look to be pretty available. . . Only Allis Chalmers existing now is an oilfield service company and the riding mores made by Briggs & Stratton. . . AGCO makes the engines now, but not sure if the same design.
[QUOTE=c.captain;175680]Allis Chalmers used to be a massive industrial manufacturer including steam turbines for ships but I do not think their diesels were ever marketed for maritime use. I have not heard of any vessel with A-C engines or gensets[/QUOTE]
They used to build a lot of orange tractors. Very common in ag areas of the country.
Stolen from Wikipedia. . .
[I]"1940s
World War II caused Allis-Chalmers, like most other manufacturing companies, to become extremely busy. As happened with many firms, its civilian product lines experienced a period of being “on hold”, with emphasis on parts and service to keep existing machines running,[20] but its war materiel production was pushed to the maximum of productivity and output. In the late 1930s through mid-1940s, Allis-Chalmers made machinery for naval ships, such as steam turbines, generators, and electric motors; artillery tractors and tractors for other army use; electrical switches and controls; and other products. Allis-Chalmers was also one of many firms contracted to build equipment for the Manhattan Project.[21] Its experience in mining and milling machinery made it a logical choice for uranium mining and processing equipment. Allis-Chalmers ranked 45th among United States corporations in the value of wartime military production contracts.[22]
Immediately at the war’s end, in 1945–1946, Allis-Chalmers endured a crippling 11-month labor strike.[23] Buescher was convinced that the corporation never entirely recovered from the effects of this strike.[23][24] This seems debatable given the various successes that Allis-Chalmers did have during the next 30 years, including prosperity in the farm equipment business in the 1950s and 1960s.[24] But it certainly gave competitors a chance to grab market share."[/I]
[QUOTE=cmakin;175705]More info. . . installed in the Allis Chalmers 7045 Tractor. . . 6 cylinder inline, 426 ci. . . looking at the photos, is four stroke. . .shouldn’t be too hard to work on. . . parts look to be pretty available. . . [/QUOTE]
strange that there is not a tremendous degree of information available on these engines but with only 111hours I don’t expect to need to do any work on it before I can resell the unit. I did find this video on YouTube showing one running…obviously a 4 stroke
my company also won a huge hydraulic powerpack this week as well…I believe it came from the Naval Shipyard in Bremerton
will be picking the powerpack up on Monday and the Genset after Christmas
[QUOTE=c.captain;175665]just won a 100kW genset with only 111 hours on it but included is a full switchboard with a motor control center!
The only thing is that the generator is powered with a Allis Chalmers 670T diesel which I have no experience with…anybody here know of these engines?[/QUOTE]
Once upon a time, I had a fishing boat powered by a 6 cyl Allis Chalmers. It was a good engine that was well proven in the popular (in its era) line of Allis Chalmers tractors used by farmers everywhere. It’s a 4 cycle engine. In fact, the only two stroke diesels I can think of were the Detroits, Clevelands, EMDs, Fairbanks, Wickmans, and the Chrysler-Nissan 75 series which were copies of the Detroits (they were better than the Detroits with less oil leaks and a lot quieter, but as I recall they lost a patent infringement suit and faded from the market, with parts becoming ridiculously expensive).
In general, I have found Rocky Mountain Tractor Parts, to be a good source of parts for antique equipment. Although, I have mostly bought CAT parts from them.
[QUOTE=cmakin;175703]Without even looking it up, I would guess that it is a four stroke. . . and no, other than having to have positive pressure to the intake for scavenging, it really doesn’t matter. . .[/QUOTE]
that brings up a question I have often wanted the answer to which is what advantages do 2cycle diesels have over 4cycle? They have half the number of valves of course and get power in every cylinder stroke as opposed every other one, but is there a HP or torque advantage based on a given total displacement? I do see these 670T’s are rated at 175hp and are about the same size as a 6-71 which I believe are 225hp in the 4valve model.
I love that this genset only has 111hours on it which means it is not even broke in yet!
[QUOTE=c.captain;175731]that brings up a question I have often wanted the answer to which is what advantages do 2cycle diesels have over 4cycle? They have half the number of valves of course and get power in every cylinder stroke as opposed every other one, but is there a HP or torque advantage based on a given total displacement? I do see these 670T’s are rated at 175hp and are about the same size as a 6-71 which I believe are 225hp in the 4valve model.
I love that this genset only has 111hours on it which means it is not even broke in yet![/QUOTE]
an issue you may have regarding selling it is emission compliance…I’m assuming its an old engine, regardless of its hours.Is california the only state that has a hard-on for that? I don’t think that’s penetrated the PNW yet?
My next man purchase whenever things turn around will be a classic Allis-Chalmers. That Persian orange looks sharp when they’re restored.
