Do MSC licensed officers get to use officer’s clubs etc. like higher grade Government civilian workers would? What other base privileges do they get?

[image] raymaritime: Not necessarily because you can be an O5 and a CHENG, positions like CHENG and CM are usually rewarded to those who have been recently promoted to the rank of commander (or even O4). Are you saying chief engineer and chief mate are comparable positions?

Pay wise, Chief Engineer pay is close to Master pay. Chief Mate deserves every penny they make. Referring to MSC, not USN. A “Mustang” was honored for his accomplishments in my sons church a while back. Cool shit. My next door neighbor was a door gunner and flight mechanic on the helicopters on the…

Yeah in the Navy because they are department head positions…

[image] SeaEagle: Pay wise, Chief Engineer pay is close to Master pay. Chief Mate deserves every penny they make. I think for most US flag deep-sea union gigs, Captain and Chief (engineer) are very close, if not the same pay. I wonder if there are cases of the Chief (engineer) earning higher …

[image] johnny.dollar: Few people here care about the navy. On a real ship, the Chief and Captain are closer the “peers” than the Chief and the chief (1st) mate. But the question was about how the Navy would view things – “assimilated officer rank ”.

[image] dbeierl: But the question was about how the Navy would view things – “assimilated rank”. It was, and thus it would be appropriate to grant the Cheif (engineer) of a civilian vessel the same privileges as the Captain.

One could envision the Navy viewing it either way.

I’m sorry that you don’t appreciate or care about your Forces that protect you both on land and sea. What a shame…

Government civilian employees are granted officer equivalent ranks I was wondering in my OP were CIVMARS fell in. https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/c/comparison-of-military-and-civilian-equivalent-grades.html

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But the question was about how the Navy would view things – “assimilated officer rank”.

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