True, but even without the rape it was a harassing, toxic work environment and that first shouldn’t have had that job.
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By the environment it sounds like if they hadn’t gotten her drunk something would have been slipped in her drink at some point.
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First, I see you’re an experienced mariner, it’s good to see you posting here.
You’ve mentioned some very important issues but some of the points you made have more to do with the nature and limitations of internet forums in general than the views of the members.
This particular thread is about the statements the unions made but the discussion is really spill-over from the original thread (now 230 + posts) which had wandered into other topics, as long threads tend to do, including alcohol policy.
Another limitation of the forum: Reading that letter was very distressing for me as I imagine it was for other members. A lot of members are very upset about it. Other people are reading our posts and seeing an opportunity to troll.
I’d like to to just tell some stories about past experience and my views but at this point I feel like I need a lawyer to review my posts least I overlook the “allegedly” or what ever the trolls choose to pounce on, the response which then turns into a time and energy waste.
That all said I will gladly participate on a new thread on just about any topic you wish to discuss, assuming I have anything to add.
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2 posts were merged into an existing topic: Tired of sailing with misogynists, bullies, and yes, rapists
With all due respect Cajaya, it was the ad hominem attack of the person you called out that was likely the issue. One’s alleged sexual preferences was a personal attack that had no bearing on the topic.
Perhaps not for the C/E and 1st, but the 2nd and 3rd, perhaps, assuming those jobs were rotary, then when Maersk says are “suspended” what do they mean? have they issued a DNH? If so, then I would tend to think the MEBA does have a dog in the fight.
Go read the second deleted post, @cajaya has edited out the objectionable parts from the original posts.
Yeah, IDK. I wondered myself what suspended means, I’ve never seen that. I sort of assumed in error it was discharge for cause but for all we know they could be still be getting paid. I was thinking more in terms of what a captain might do but in this case it’s the company.
As far as the 2nd and 3rd. Allegedly they were drinking with many witness so I would assume the union is not going to want to spend resources defending that, it’s against company policy, open and shut case.
Also Maersk may have far more serious charges as well besides the drinking. I think of the drinking in a similar situations as some what analogous to Al Capone going to jail for tax evasion. Sometimes you gotta use what you got.
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Ok, I don’t know what you were up against at work but I don’t doubt your stories. Go ahead and post. I assume you know what was objectionable about the other post.
Actually it does have a bearing on the topic
Very well received.
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Keep digging your hole sir.