As far as I’m aware, in ROS you basically never get OT at all.
$114,000 per year plus any per diem and weekend duty. Though that’s assuming there’s a permanent, year round, 3M position for you to work 365 days per year.
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That’s not true in my experience. Usually there is OT available at the beginning of the FY when the budget comes out, then it slowly tapers off until the end of the FY when if there’s money left over they give it out via OT. Also, if the ship goes FOS your wages increase and there’s OT every day while in FOS.
This also varies ship to ship. If MARAD/the navy/MSC whoever really values the ships, like the SL-7’s, there’s more money to go around to keep the ships in good shape.
MARAD has had 3M billets for like 3 years now on their ROS ships.
Maybe, but the ones I’m familiar with are filled 6 months at a time and not as a permanent position.
Just accepted entry level position as OS Deckhand with McAllister Philadelphia. $300/ day plus $30/ day grub $$, 14/14.
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I get about 8 hours per week. Two of the engineers live locally so I pick up weekend duty a little more than average. I took home 9k last month. Looking like just under $10 k this month. The job is permanent too. I am hoping this is my last ship until I retire in two more years.
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That’s as an AB?
No. Third Mate.
Interesting psychology going on with these pay threads…
In 2022 and 2023 the mariner pay thread had lots of people, particularly from tugs, post info. This year not so much. What changed?
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No one got raises or bonuses…
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I’m on the beach, so I don’t know yet what my pay raise will be for the 2024 season. I expect a smaller increase this year. If it’s too small, I’ll change jobs.
I know at least a few major tug companies were going through contract negotiations at that point or had just finished. Always seems to kick up pay discussions around the boats.
Kirby, Reinauer, and OSG all had new contracts in mid-late 2022.
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The unions negotiate multiyear contracts that typically have SMALL annual raises.
Non union companies respond more quickly to labor supply and demand. At many companies proven mariners cut their own deals.
I think a lot of the reason for good raises is “management’s fatigue.” When managers get tired of crewing hassles, losing good crew, and spending all their time trying to find new crew —- they significantly raise wages to reduce the hassle, and to return to focusing on logistics and business development.
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Non-union companies are also a lot quicker to lay people off/reduce pay when labor supply goes up and commodities prices drop.
Can’t say I’ve seen a union negotiate for LOWER annual pay changes. Only time I see union pay change in the wrong direction is when they switch unions or a ship goes from FOS to ROS.
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How often do you see a union contract that calls for more than a 5% increase per year?
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How often do you see a drilling company, OSV company, or the like keep their rates the same when the price of oil drops?
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Never.
If one chooses to chase the big $$$$$ during good times (and choke down Jeaux Boss’s shit sandwiches) in the bayou oil patch, then one accepts the inevitable downturns, pay cuts, and layoffs.
It’s not like there are not plenty of other things to do, both afloat and ashore.
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Sorry new guy here so I’m trying to learn. What is FOS and ROS?
FOS - Full Operating Status
ROS - Reduced Operating Status. Essentially laid up with a skeleton crew.
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I work for a non-union ship assist company, 7 on/7 off, and crews have received raises every year since 2017, including approx.10% increase in 2024. Work on first class, modern tugs and have great benefits. Nothing to complain about.
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Do you care to share the pay rates per position?