Mate of towing crossover to OICNW

Making sure I’m understanding this correct. If you meet all other qualifications and hold a mate of towing for 6 months you can get your OICNW greater than 500 operational, correct ?
Most get their 1600 ton then apply, but it looks like to me you can get it with 6 months of service as a mate of towing.

Here is the CFR

11.309 Requirements to qualify for an STCW endorsement as Officer in charge of a navigational watch (OICNW) of vessels of 500 GT or more (operational level).

(a) To qualify for an STCW endorsement as OICNW, an applicant must—

(1) Provide evidence of seagoing service as follows:

(i) Thirty-six months of seagoing service in the deck department on vessels operating in oceans, near-coastal waters, and/or Great Lakes. Service on inland waters, bays, or sounds that are navigable waters of the United States may be substituted for up to 50 percent of the total required service; or

(ii) Twelve months of seagoing service as part of an approved training program, which includes onboard training that meets the requirements of Section A-II/1 of the STCW Code (incorporated by reference, see § 11.102 of this part);

(2) Provide evidence of having performed, during the required seagoing service, bridge watchkeeping duties under the supervision of an officer holding the STCW endorsement as master, chief mate, second mate, or OICNW, for a period of not less than 6 months;

(3) Provide evidence of meeting the standard of competence specified in Section A-II/1 of the STCW Code; and

(4) Provide evidence of having satisfactorily completed approved training in the following subject areas:

(i) Medical first-aid provider.

(ii) Radar observer.

(iii) Search and rescue.

(iv) Basic and advanced firefighting in accordance with § 11.303 of this subpart.

(v) Proficiency in survival craft and rescue boats other than fast rescue boats (PSC) or proficiency in survival craft and rescue boats other than lifeboats and fast rescue boats (PSC-limited).

(vi) Visual signaling.

(vii) Bridge resource management (BRM).

(viii) Terrestrial and celestial navigation, and electronic navigation systems.

(ix) Watchkeeping, including International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (COLREGS) and IMO standard marine communication phrases (SMCP).

(x) Cargo handling and stowage.

(xi) Ship handling.

(xii) Stability and ship construction.

(xiii) Meteorology.

(xiv) ARPA, if serving on a vessel with this equipment.

(xv) GMDSS, if serving on a vessel with this equipment.

(xvi) ECDIS, if serving on a vessel with this equipment.

(b) Experience gained in the engine department on vessels may be creditable for up to 3 months of the service requirements in paragraph (a)(1)(i) of this section.

(c) For a renewal of an STCW endorsement as OICNW of vessels of 500 GT or more to be valid on or after January 1, 2017, each candidate must provide the following:

(1) Evidence of meeting the standard of competence in leadership and teamworking skills.

(2) Completion of approved training in ECDIS, if serving on a vessel with this equipment.

(d) The Coast Guard may exempt an applicant from meeting any individual knowledge, understanding, and proficiency required in Section A-II/1 of the STCW Code. These exemptions must be approved by the Coast Guard based upon vessel type. Under these circumstances, the credential may include a corresponding limitation.

(e) Seafarers with one of the following national officer endorsements are eligible to apply for this endorsement upon completion of the requirements in the following table:

Table 1 to § 11.309(e)—STCW Endorsement as OICNW of Vessels of 500 GT or More

Entry path from national endorsements

Sea service under authority of the endorsement1

Competence—STCW Table A-II/12

Training required by thissection3

Mate ocean or near-coastal, unlimited tonnage

None

Yes

Yes.

Master ocean or near-coastal, less than 500 GRT

6 months

Yes

Yes.

Mate ocean or near-coastal, less than 1,600 GRT

None

Yes

Yes.

Mate ocean or near-coastal, less than 500 GRT

12 months

Yes

Yes.

Mate OSV

12 months1

Yes

Yes.

Mate towing vessel ocean or near-coastal

6 months

Yes

Yes.

1 This column provides the minimum additional service required of the seafarer in order to meet the requirements of this section.

2 Complete any items in paragraph (a)(3) of this section not previously satisfied.

3 Complete any items in paragraph (a)(4) of this section not previously satisfied.

[USCG-2004-17914, 78 FR 77909, Dec. 24, 2013, as amended by USCG-2014-0688, 79 FR 58276, Sept. 29, 2014; USCG-2018-0874, 84 FR 30882, June 28, 2019]

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-46/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-11/subpart-C/section-11.309

Still need the assessment signed off and hold the equivalent national license so a 200tn plus those classes

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Mate of towing vessels is an equivalent national endorsement. See paragraph (1)(l) of Enclosure 1 to NVIC 12-14.

Thanks, that was the way I’m reading it. Everyone I was speaking with were saying you had to have a 1600 ton GRT, plus sea time, assessments and classes.
I have the assessments, and am working on the classes.

I don’t see why you wouldn’t want to get the 1,600 ton also.

How does a 1600 GRT help on a towing vessel ?

A possibility is to look into towing company job descriptions where you might find the following statement.

“Must have a minimum USCG 1600 GT Mate upon Oceans License with Mate of Towing Vessels upon Oceans and STCW 2010.”

Just thinking outside the box.

My company requires 1600 T Oceans if you want to sail as Captain. Mates can get hired with 200 T NC but they want you to advance your license

Out of curiosity, if it’s a towing vessel why does your company require a 1600 GRT since a mate/master of towing isn’t restricted by tonnage ?

I believe they like to tell the customers that all our wheelhouse personnel have big licenses.

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Restricted by tonnage question consider question 26 in NVIC 3 16

I wonder how many towing vessels are over 300 GRT. Most I’ve seen keep the GRT under 300, even if the GT is over 600.

Agree, but in some cases it is as previously said, it might a company employee qualification thing or extending to insurance requirement.

Both of us will need to wait for those sailing for companies that have this requirement to speak to this.

As to the why. You can test for 1600 which requires 7 tests. You can test for 500 master by way of mate of towing and take 3 tests. However you need a year as a mate of towing. You only need 6 months as mate of towing for OICNW. So, if you meet the assessments in 12-14 and have the classes you could be properly licensed before the year is up and you test for 500 GRT master.
I’ve discovered there is no one route to get the license you want. Lol

True, but a lot of newer ones, especially ATB tugs, are over 300 GRT.

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Because if you have a 1600t it’s probably more likely that you went to the academy, and are therefore a superior mariner…

You’re joking right?