Job Prospects for an Academy Graduate in the Gulf

Yep we will professionally harass the shit out of all smart asses.

Gift wrapped just for you smart ass!

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;89806]Yep we will professionally harass the shit out of all smart asses.[/QUOTE]

What?

It takes a jackass to genuinely know one.

After nearly 40 posts, the whole world is still waiting for those mysterious and alleged “smart ass” remarks to surface.

Do your parents know your up this late on a school night? You should go to bed. Don’t want to miss the school bus in the morning. Or be to tired during attendance in home room

I don’t know what the mean streets of Ohio have taught you, but you’re a very long way from being a smart ass or master debater. Not to be confused with master baiter, I bet you’re good at that… It’s clear you’re a lost cause, you’re to worried about proving how smart you are but you won’t read the info at hand. Many academy guy from all over the US want these jobs. 4 years can change a lot of things, so do your self a favor, shut up, go to school and worry about jobs when you pass the test. It’s clear you’ve never been in or around the industry and with an attitude like that, you never will. Keep on with the insults, don’t bother me any, I have my job in the oil field, along with others who have responded.

I’m with the other guy. You’ll drop out and wind up in JC somewhere. You’re not gonna make it tough guy. You could’ve walked it back and toned it down at about your third post. You just had to show us how smart you are.

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I have read this three times, along with the blog article about this. What does it have to do with choosing a major or the current state of employment in the gulf? Im fairly serious about a maritime career, if I wasn’t I would have run off by now…

Of course none of you actually expected one of those new “kaadets” or industry hopefuls to actually return punches harder than they were delivered.

Your punches are about as hard as a wet noodle… Keep tryin Jr

[QUOTE=ryanwood86;89810] 4 years can change a lot of things, so do your self a favor, shut up, go to school and worry about jobs when you pass the test. It’s clear you’ve never been in or around the industry and with an attitude like that, you never will. Keep on with the insults, don’t bother me any, I have my job in the oil field, along with others who have responded.[/QUOTE]

Would you invest in a company without knowing its corporate model? How about its outlook for the next year? Two? Four? Would you invest 50,000+ inflated dollars without doing this? Sure, there is no way to fully predict what will happen even a week from now. But you can be prepared.

I applied this same frame to my interest in each major/career I am considering, including maritime. My entire set of questions was about preparedness. If I were to chose a degree to fall back on (marine science), would this affect my employment prospects in the Maritime Industry, more specifically OSVs, tugs, etc in the Gulf. If it wouldn’t affect that,could it affect possibly acquiring a DPO license a few years down the road? What GPA or club membership should I maintain to remain competitive for lucrative jobs? Sure, you can say this is a bit overboard. But your financial advisor would think the same way before investing 50,000 dollars.

50,000 is about the cost of in-state college tuition. Maritime training is an investment, correct?

Oh man you dealt the knock out blow. You should major in being smart ass. You’ll graduate with honors. None of these companies care about your degree. All they want us that third mates license you’ll have. No one gives a shit about what club you were in either. If you’re concerned about the company’s future growth get a prospectus.

fraqrat;89816]oh man you dealt the knock out blow. You should major in being smart ass. You’ll graduate with honors. None of these companies care about your degree. All they want us that third mates license you’ll have. No one gives a shit about what club you were in either. If you’re concerned about the company’s future growth get a prospectus.

THANK YOU

I feel the same way about “clubs”.

We don’t have to pat ourselves on the back. Like Ryan said we already have the jobs you’re looking for. Say hello to all the guys who have to train you once you graduate.

You want to know about degrees? Ok, well here you go.

If you do Marine Trans you’ll be in a better position for shoreside managerial work. It has all the license stuff plus maritime industry and business stuff.

Marine environmental science or whatever you said has all the license stuff plus chem/marine bio and the like. The science degree is more useful if you wanna work for NOAA or research ships…I guess.
Marine Trans is what many shoreside workers in areas like Marine Insurance, Chartering, Maine Operations have, at least in the New York area. In the old days this is what most people got, then went blue water then into shoreside management.
There really Isn’t much blue water nowadays so a lot of unlimited license grads sail on limited tonnage vessels. Which is fine because the money’s just as good and better in some cases. Very, Very few grads are getting jobs on cruise ships or research vessels and few of us expect that. I don’t know where you got the idea that we do. Maybe as freshman, when they don’t really know the state of the industry they all expect to go blue water but they figure it out pretty quick.

Last, from what it sounds like it really is kids like you who make us Akaademee grads look bad. There’s plenty of arrogant new 3rds, but there’s also plenty of good ones who look to gain real experience and listen to what the unlicensed and the hawspipers know. There’s also plenty of unlicensed who are as dumb as bricks, or think their way’s the best no matter what, or are lazy and just wanna give you a hard time. Just like there’s unlicensed and hawspipers who know their shit and have a great work ethic. You have to realise that it takes a ton of hard work to get a license. For a Hawspiper who didn’t bother going to school when they got out of HS to put all that time into it and study and pass their exams, even if they only hold limited tickets, that shows some major balls and dedication.

EDITED: for grammer/spelling because I was on my iPhone when I first typed it out.

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;89819]Say hello to all the guys who have to train you once you graduate.[/QUOTE]

This is true with every career and industry.

Point was if you are getting upset about this it only gets worse with your attitude.

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;89820]You want to know about degrees. Ok we’ll here you go if you do Marine Trans you’ll be in a better position for shoreside managerial work. It has all the license stuff plus maritime industry and business stuff.
Marine environmental science or whatever you said has all the license stuff plus chem/marine bio and the like. The science degree is more useful if you wanna work for NOAA or research ships…I guess.
Marine Trans is what many shoreside workers in areas like Marine Insuance, Chartering, Maine Operations have, at least in the New York area. In the old days this is what most people got, then went blue water then into shoreside management.
There really Isn’t much blue water nowadays so a lot of unlimited license grads sail on limited tonnage vessels. Which is fine because the money’s just as good and better in some cases. Very, Very few grads are getting jobs on cruise ships or research vessels and few of us expect that. I don’t know where you got the idea that we do. Maybe as freshman when they don’t really know the state of the industry they all expect to go blue water but they figure it out pretty quick.

Last, from what it sounds like it really is kids like you who make us Akaademee grads look bad. There’s plenty of arrogant new 3rds but there’s also plenty of good ones who look to gain real experience and listen to what the unlicensed and the hawspipers know. There’s also plenty of unlicensed who are as dumb as bricks and think there ways the best or are lazy and just wanna give you a hard time. Just like there’s unlicensed and hawspipers who know there shit and have a great work ethic.[/QUOTE]

I appreciate your insight, thanks. Im leaning towards Marine Sciences because its about the closest degree to Chemistry, Geology, Oceanography, etc, while still getting the LO. Having that would allow me to have a back up because according to some on here I’m already doomed from the start. This ENTIRE thread was supposed to be about if a Marine transportation degree mattered and if it could be swapped to no effect.

As for your last paragraph, Im guessing you havent read the whole thread and are just relying on what some here are saying. Thats called Group Think, and its rampant here. There still has been no valid examples of my “smart ass” remarks other than the decoy ones I posted with a footnote clearly stating it was indeed a smart ass remark.

I really am surprised at how bad this thread went. Really surprised.

Good luck and God bless kid. Hope it all goes according to your plans.

[QUOTE=SouthernBornOhioBurned;89825]I appreciate your insight, thanks. Im leaning towards Marine Sciences because its about the closest degree to Chemistry, Geology, Oceanography, etc, while still getting the LO. Having that would allow me to have a back up because according to some on here I’m already doomed from the start. This ENTIRE thread was supposed to be about if a Marine transportation degree mattered and if it could be swapped to no effect.

As for your last paragraph, Im guessing you havent read the whole thread and are just relying on what some here are saying. Thats called Group Think, and its rampant here. There still has been no valid examples of my “smart ass” remarks other than the decoy ones I posted with a footnote clearly stating it was indeed a smart ass remark.[/QUOTE]

I read the whole thing buddy. You’ll probably be a very different person when you graduate so I won’t hold it against you too much. Its all in you’re tone. From the very beginning you’ve failed to show any respect to the people here. I even wrote all that up to give you some insight. But instead of just saying thanks and leaving it at that, you continue running your mouth with a remark that only shows arrogance and disdain.

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;89828] read the whole thing buddy. You’ll probably be a very different person when you graduate so I won’t hold it against you too much. Its all in you’re tone. From the very beginning you’ve failed to show any respect to the people here. I even wrote all that up to give you some insight. But instead of just saying thanks and leaving it at that, you continue running your mouth with a remark that only shows arrogance and disdain.[/QUOTE]

Maybe a refresher is needed. Prejudice or disdain? Hmm

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;89820]Last, from what it sounds like it really is kids like you who make us Akaademee grads look bad[/QUOTE]

As for tone, this is a forum on the internet, its pretty hard to decipher a person’s real attitude or personality. Nobody talks like they type here.

From your third post.

[QUOTE=SouthernBornOhioBurned;89727]Hahaha I expected some sly remarks. Maybe reading comprehension is not a strong point of yours? [B][sounds to me like you’re just unprovokedly calling him either dumb or an asshole.] [/B]

Its a question about the pathway to getting a DP license…But hey, go ahead and be an Internet tough guy, it only makes you look foolish.[B][you reiterating that you’re calling him an asshole][/B][/QUOTE]

:cool:[B]Pro-tip:[/B] Next time just wait longer for someone with the constructive answers you seek before bashing someone. Also, learn to just apologize and back down. Show some tact and restraint even if you think you’re right.

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:cool:[B]Pro-tip:[/B] Next time just wait longer for someone with the constructive answers you seek before bashing someone. Also, learn to just apologize and back down. Show some tact and restraint even if you think you’re right.[/QUOTE]

This I will agree with. I should have restrained myself better than to retaliate.