Is it possible to be a US Mariner while having a family in South America?

[QUOTE=Slick Cam;167951]Here we go again. If you question any social issues in the US, your a racist hate-monger and “hypocrite”. So sick of people shutting down any meaningful discussion of steps to move forward or deal with the issues with automatic labels and ad-hominem attacks.

Screw it, their right, we’re all filthy racists. Let the issues continue to spiral out of control and do nothing. That’s the best, non-“racist” way to move forward. Do nothing, plug your head in the sand, and scream “racist”. Mentally lazy ostrich people.[/QUOTE]

We could demand people that employ illegals be jailed until then those who complain about immigration are disingenuous at best.

[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;167947]A lot of migrant workers would have likely preferred not to live here but just come temporarily for seasonal work and then return home where the cost of living is low and they have family. However the U.S. goverment has made it very difficult to cross the border, so many remain here.

One explanation for our current situation is politicians and their supporters prefer the status quo. This is why they refuse to take steps to improve the situation until some impossible demand is met. Our crops get picked and we have a handy scape goat for our problems. It’s win-win, unless you’re a worker.[/QUOTE]

Very true. The economy did not crash in 2007-8 due to illegal immigrants but a financial system run amok which then was bailed out with trillions of dollars by the taxpayers. Nothing substantive has been done to prevent the “too big to fail” from pulling the same thing again.Real wages are at a 40 year low for working folks. Balance of trade is negative. Infrastructure is deteriorating to third world conditions but it is easier to scape goat illegal immigrants who are hired by US citizens as being the root of all the USA’s problems rather than confront the real problems and find solutions. As you said the politicians and their supporters prefer it this way. It is a smoke screen.

I DO demand it, as do many others. The electorate is not to blame. The electorate clamors for reform. The leadership does not provide it.

It doesn’t help when folks like yourself throw the race card out at mere mention of the issue.

“Disingenuous”…piffle

[QUOTE=Slick Cam;167975]I DO demand it, as do many others. The electorate is not to blame. The electorate clamors for reform. The leadership does not provide it.

It doesn’t help when folks like yourself throw the race card out at mere mention of the issue.

“Disingenuous”…piffle[/QUOTE]

Race isn’t a card it is a fact .

The electorate keeps reelecting the leaders [congress] who make the laws.

I see the leaders of our country refusing to do anything about legal waivers to labor laws that allow foreigners to take jobs from USA mariners.
I therefore refuse to vote for any incumbent.
Immigration is a VERY minor issue in the grand scheme of things .

Instant tax paying (hopefully) citizens who are handed a green card and instructed to vote democrat or you’ll be deported. Hooray everybody wins.

just add in bill Cosby and Bruce Jenner

I’m gonna pretend Jenner is the damsel in distress they are riding to save.

[QUOTE=australswagman;167787]Mariners,

I did a forum search before resorting to posting this but did not really what I am looking for.

Im a 28 year old American citizen currently vagabonding around South America trying to find a place to call home. I want to fulfill my dream of being a US Mariner but I absolutely refuse to get married and raise kids in the US. I love our country, but it’s no place I want to raise a family. The only sea experience I have was when I learned the basics of sailing on a 100 year old sqaure rigger for a month.

Is it feasible to work for the Merchant Marines while simultaneously living in South America?

From my understanding if I were to join a union at the bottom of the ladder most of my time would be spent waiting in the union halls waiting for a job? Or do you go to a Union hall, put your name on a list, go home and pray to be called and then report?

Lets say you are lucky enough to land a job, do you travel internationally to wherever ship is? Or are the ships usually stateside?

I understand there is an apprenticeship with the SIU that upon comleteion puts you in a better bracket, but I would rather save the time, get my qualifications and try landing a job with one of the unions. Is this a wise idea?

Should I even be looking at unions or should I be considering non union companies?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I dont know if this a pipe dream I have or if its actually feasible. I dont care if I have to fly and sail long distances for a few years to support my family.

Thankyou so much for your time.[/QUOTE]

What you should do is denounce your US citizenship and just stay there for good. …lemme guess, you voted for Obama??

I agree with you entirely

lemme guess, you voted for Obama??

but this was unnecessary to add

[QUOTE=australswagman;167787]Mariners,

I did a forum search before resorting to posting this but did not really what I am looking for.

Im a 28 year old American citizen currently vagabonding around South America trying to find a place to call home. I want to fulfill my dream of being a US Mariner but I absolutely refuse to get married and raise kids in the US. I love our country, but it’s no place I want to raise a family. The only sea experience I have was when I learned the basics of sailing on a 100 year old sqaure rigger for a month.

Is it feasible to work for the Merchant Marines while simultaneously living in South America?

From my understanding if I were to join a union at the bottom of the ladder most of my time would be spent waiting in the union halls waiting for a job? Or do you go to a Union hall, put your name on a list, go home and pray to be called and then report?

Lets say you are lucky enough to land a job, do you travel internationally to wherever ship is? Or are the ships usually stateside?

I understand there is an apprenticeship with the SIU that upon comleteion puts you in a better bracket, but I would rather save the time, get my qualifications and try landing a job with one of the unions. Is this a wise idea?

Should I even be looking at unions or should I be considering non union companies?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I dont know if this a pipe dream I have or if its actually feasible. I dont care if I have to fly and sail long distances for a few years to support my family.

Thankyou so much for your time.[/QUOTE]

As a 28 year old vagabond from the USA wishing to live in South America but not wanting to raise kids in the USA I wonder if you have thought about how you sound. You are a vagabond from the USA that does not wish to have children in the USA. Does this mean you do not wish your children to turn out like you?
Who raised you in the USA, sent you to school and kept you healthy? You did this all by yourself or did some misguided souls in the USA burden themselves with the chore? Though the USA may have problems you apparently do also. You may escape your country but you cannot escape yourself.
There are some wonderful places in South America. The good people there will initially wonder why you are there but they’ll soon figure out you are blaming a country for your own problems. At 28 years of age it is time to grow up and quit being a vagabond [bum].

[QUOTE=tengineer1;168010]There are some wonderful places in South America. The good people there will initially wonder why you are there but they’ll soon figure out you are blaming a country for your own problems. At 28 years of age it is time to grow up and quit being a vagabond [bum].[/QUOTE]

oh, this is SO SWEET!

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When I started in the commercial sector of the maritime industry my full time home was in Central America, Bay islands of Honduras. I worked 40/20, it gave me plenty of time to come home to the fam. Now the whole crew is moved to Fl and I am 28/14 in the GOM

OP,

You are dog-whistling. “Family friendly” = Total control over the house, the money, the kids and the wife. Seen your type many a time before. Maybe I’m wrong…but if you left the US out of fear of waking up with a wedding band on your hand, maybe you have some other issues…like booze or drugs or an overactive imagination. I have two sons, one over 30, and neither one has married. And they live right here in the US. They work, and live on their own. Last time I checked, no female had them roped and tied.

Anyway, my suggestion is to stay where you are and become credentialed in the country of your residence. We don’t need to have yet another American ex-pat removing wages from the country and spending them elsewhere. If you do choose to live there and work here, you will be taxed on those wages and you won’t be able to benefit from them anyway. At least, in your SA haven, you’ll pay taxes into their coffers so that when you do decide to ditch your SA wife and abandon your kids, they’ll get some kind of public assistance.

[QUOTE=catherder;168081]OP,

Maybe I’m wrong…[/QUOTE]

Yes. You are wrong. And in regards to your sons. I bet they’re pretty smart guys. It’s quite possible they live in reality. If I had to live in the US still be surrounded by more overweight, tattooed, or just simply more girls who are more concerned about their corporate boyfriend along with lattes and profits I would also stay a bachelor into my 30’s.

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[QUOTE=XpatBubba;168057]When I started in the commercial sector of the maritime industry my full time home was in Central America, Bay islands of Honduras. I worked 40/20, it gave me plenty of time to come home to the fam. Now the whole crew is moved to Fl and I am 28/14 in the GOM[/QUOTE]

Good to know, thankyou for your response.

HEY Australswagman!..are you even an American? I mean born and raised in the USofA?

If you are, what’s with the “Austral” in your username? What’s also up with the “swag” bit as well?

If you are a transplant then SHUT THE FUCK UP and leave this place…NOW!

[QUOTE=c.captain;168108]HEY Australswagman!..are you even an American? I mean born and raised in the USofA?

If you are, what’s with the “Austral” in your username? What’s also up with the “swag” bit as well?

If you are a transplant then SHUT THE FUCK UP and leave this place…NOW![/QUOTE]

Since you are so curious and have taken time out of your finite life to post nothing of substance on this thread…again…yes I was born and raised in the US. Austral because I’m now spending most of time now in the southern hemisphere, and swagman in reference to the old time Australian men who roamed the land to work for a living.

AH! So you’re an Australopithecus eh?

well that certainly explains quite a bit!

C.captain, I’m glad you are entertaining yourself.

[QUOTE=australswagman;168112]C.captain, I’m glad you are entertaining yourself.[/QUOTE]

sure thing…I get no end of enjoyment jabbing the pointy stick of trooth at fools such as yourself.

[QUOTE=c.captain;168114]sure thing…I get no end of enjoyment jabbing the pointy stick of trooth at fools such as yourself.[/QUOTE]

Sure you do. You’re bloviating because you like to have your ego stroked. I’ll tell you what, send me a PM with whatever issue you have with my thread, and we can have a gentlemanly exchange instead of you hurling unfounded insults at someone who you in reality have no idea who they are or what their life story is. It’s obvious you’re already intrigued by your previous questions, so I’ll be glad to answer any other questions you may have.

If you don’t send me a PM, then you can by all means shutup and just stop commenting on the thread. I’m sure you can find other productive things to do away from your computer. Or you can stick to threads where you actually have something relevant to say.